The rule for Christmas music is that you need to wait for November 11th to pass. You can't start up jolly music when you've got Remembrance Day around the corner. And to be safe, you got to wait a day after. Super rude to start it any earlier than the 11th.

xmas starts on Black Friday for me. (neverminding my xmas tree is still up from two years ago... but it has fall leaves garlands on it XD )

uhm, yeah. Xmas starts the day after the US Thanksgiving. my younger daughter says it starts November 1st. and the craft store i work in has had xmas stuff since august. *sigh*

Honestly, I used to celebrate Christmas on Nov. 1st.
Thanksgiving isn't really a thing my family celebrates.

So we kinda skip it and head straight to the Christmas things right after Halloween.

But not lately, as we now live in California and there's no weather changes each season...

Christmas feels like just another day in the life nowadays.

Yeah... But shops supplying Christmas gear early isn't a bad thing imo. Some people like to get ready early for the festivities since it's easier to go holiday shopping outside of the holidays. Less crowds, prices are usually better, and it's easier to budget into your daily life. Plus having some decorations when the nights grow longer makes it nicer to be outside.
I'd rather have shops selling me Christmas stuff a bit earlier than have to fight crowds for that last wrapping paper come December.

good point okok..... but we keep selling xmas stuff earlier and earlier. same with halloween. we were actually sold out of a halloween item in late august! o_O

That's probably the reason it gets sold earlier and earlier. The demand is there, why not sell it? I guess I don't have a problem with shops trying to earn money regardless of season. It's mostly the songs that play on a loop that get annoying if they start too early.

i completely agree about the music, yes.

Treemas music can wait for december for me

I don't mind Christmas music,
But only after Halloween at the very least.

I hate some of the same old tired Christmas songs though...
"Baby it's cold outside" is a creepy song if I've ever heard one..
And "My Favorite Things"?? How is that even a Christmas song?!

My all time favourit Christmas song, mostly because it's rarely played in malls, is Dominick the (Christmas) Donkey. It's an adorable song, and you get to "HEE-HAW HEE-HAW!" along with the song.

i'm sure one of the songs i like i will never hear in any store - "Santa Claus is Pagan Too" :)

I used to listen to Hawaiian radio in the winter when I lived in Minnesota,

On the Hawaiian stations they play mostly local music, and there was one song I loved called, "Christmas Once Again In Honolulu" and I really enjoyed that song!

"Baby, It's Cold Outside" is actually not as creepy as it seems, when you take the era it was released in. Back then, women weren't allowed nearly the amount of sexual liberty as they are now, and it was expected that they'd not stay overnight with a man if they were unwed.

The woman in the song actually does want to stay overnight with the man in the song, and is making the excuses that society expects her to make to "reject" his advances, aka what a "good girl" should say. He's responding in a way that signals to the woman that he knows she's just saying what society expects her to say, and he's saying "honorable" reasons she could give as excuses as to why she stayed over should people start to gossip about her virtues.

Also, the line "Say, what's in this drink?" is meant to be humorous, as at that point in time, most drinks were made with very little alcohol in them, if any at all. Again, an example of her saying what society would've expected her to say in her position.

At the end of the song, they sing in harmony, having come to an understanding and having gone through all the motions and expectations of society, and understand that they both desire the company of the other.

I guess it makes sense given the time it was written...

But it's definitely creepy by today's standards.
It really give me a weird feeling in my stomach whenever I hear it...
Literally, if it starts playing on the radio when I'm listening, I'll shut it off and just wait in silence until I think it's long over...

Yeah, nowadays? It's on par with the "Every Breath You Take" song.

Ugh! That's a creepy song too!

I used to like the beat of it,
But then I listened to the lyrics and since then when I hear it, it makes my tummy feel sour.

I think it depends. In my case it was literally caused by my heavy periods so it mostly fixed it. Iron is on the low side when I do blood check-ups, but not officially anemia anymore.

I still kinda find that to be creepy...
Considering the song is supposed to make it seem like he was attempting to make her stay over for (presumably) sex, yeah?
Why would you sing about something like *that* in front of your friends? And at a party, no less?

I guess parties back then were like giant orgies or something???

I can't imagine going to a party and then "entertaining" my friends by teasing my husband with the will-they-won't-they of sex.

it wasn't about making her stay over for sex. it was that the female singer wanted to stay over, but because of society's expectations, she had to keep refusing, and the male singer was giving her reasons to provide if anyone tried to disparage her reputation or make her out to be a loose woman.

Baby it's cold outside is a standard "call and answer" song. It comes off as creepy now because women are more liberated, so the idea that it's only okay to have sex if you have the appropriate excuses is outdated.

pretend it's not talking about sex and it's talking about something else she wants to do that she's afraid of people judging her for. She's giving all the arguments society will give and he's giving her counters to them.

Edit: As far as whether that's party appropriate, sex is actually a fairly common topic between adults. granted, maybe not in mixed company, but still. It was and is common enough that it's played every Christmas, along with several other songs constantly played that are clearly about sex

It's staying over at a man's house overnight that causes the accusations, even if nothing happens

Thankfully it's not like that anymore (at least where I live)

*wanders through with a clipboard and their phone*

NOW we can play Christmas music!!

Halloween is over!!

I'm really pissed off because like... two days ago, I went to my favorite coffee shop for my fall favorite, Pumpkin Spice Chai Latte...
AND IT WAS GONE! >:T NOW they have the winter flavors. ;-; Peppermint Mochas and Hot Chocolates and such...

I wasn't prepared !!!

So I picked something random and it wasn't even good

ahhh!!!! *runs around like a lunatic*

no xmas music until Black Friday!!

(says she who still has her xmas tree up from two years ago. but it has fall leaves garland on it!)

I don't really celebrate Thanksgiving anymore

And honestly... I don't celebrate Christmas even. ouo

But I like listening to random indie Christmas songs

we don't really do much for turkey day right now either.

and as for my winter holidays, we celebrate ChanaYuleMas - chanukah, yule/solstice, xmas :)

my crafting project this month is my NaNo :)

i'm doing 4 short stories that are related to my story i wrote last year, and one short story that is decidedly not related to anything.

...I should make a goat to hide in my boyfriend's family's house.

yaay for plans! :)

I still need to make myself a new dice bag.

I need to be immortal so I can actually master all the things I want to instead of slowly working on a million things and never actually progressing at all

My grandmother was Jewish, but raised my dad was raised Christian due to my grandfather being Christian.

But after they divorced, my grandma used to attempt to mix in Chanukah with Christmas stuff when she would celebrate the holidays with my family.

I got really into learning about the Jewish holidays when I was around 16, but.. you know.. our family did not belong to any synagogue and my grandmother was the only Jewish person I knew at the time, so I kinda went online and guessed at how Chanukah is celebrated.

People used to think I was weird because I am a POC and everyone in Minnesota always assumed that you can't be both black AND Jewish. :/

My black family celebrates Kwanzaa...
I used to host a Kwanzaa thread in Mene each year. It was fun, I might do it here if no one else beats me to it :D