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Alpha 05-29-2012 09:13 PM

Oh, okay. That makes sense and seriously simplifies it.

And maybe Espy should be focusing on finals then?

Tiva 05-29-2012 09:15 PM

We went over it some in psychology... that is what I got of it.

Alpha 05-29-2012 09:16 PM

Well, alas but my psych professor skipped over it. Nothing that important anyways....(or he might have gone over it and it was one of those days where I wasn't paying huge amounts of attention*

Espy 05-29-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1211408)
Oh, okay. That makes sense and seriously simplifies it.

And maybe Espy should be focusing on finals then?

Espy already graduated, so Espy is done...

Alpha 05-29-2012 09:19 PM

Oh, didn't knows. Yays for Espy then! (schools around here haven't gotten out yet and still have another week or so)

Coda 05-29-2012 09:24 PM

Espy, don't think of it as actual reality. Rather, think of it as a probability distribution. Until you take a measurement of the system -- thereby escalating one of those probabilities to 100% (you just looked at it, so it's definitely happened) and reducing the rest to 0% (you didn't see them, so they didn't happen) -- then it would be fallacious to treat the system as if it were in any fixed state. Rather, you have to treat it as a superposition of possible states.

This is, in fact, how electrons work. They're not some tiny little blob of matter spinning in circles around the nucleus of an atom. Instead, they're wave impulses. (Though at that scale, E=mc^2 says there's no difference!) And you can't measure WHERE an electron is, but rather you can measure where they CAN be, with associated probabilities.

Espy 05-29-2012 09:25 PM

Yeah, my school's really early.

...I get this feeling I'm gonna be on Wikipedia for the next four hours. (I somehow went from cosmology to the Planck constant...)

Alpha 05-29-2012 09:26 PM

*head spins a bit* A bit more technical of an explanation, but definitely works. I guess I'll have to refresh on a lot of things before I get back into sciences again (hard sciences that is).

Espy 05-29-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1211447)
They're not some tiny little blob of matter spinning in circles around the nucleus of an atom. Instead, they're wave impulses.

...Okay, I understood everything minus tis part, which is opposite of what textbooks teach. But then again, textbooks aren't too great at explaining atoms in general, anyways.

Coda 05-29-2012 09:29 PM

It's not really technical at all. You do it all the time when you're mentally exploring a set of possibilities. If there's more than one thing that can happen, you'll think about what might happen in each possible case. You can make plans based on each result. But only one of those results can happen, and you THINKING about the result is separate from what actually happens. After all, when your friend is late, you might think "what happened to them ten minutes ago?" and your actions will be based on the probabilities of each outcome. And then when you actually CALL your friend, and you find out what happened, the other possibilities stop mattering.

Your thoughts are that superposition of states, and that superposition lasts until you observe the system, even though the event in question might have already happened.

Coda 05-29-2012 09:31 PM

Espy, textbooks are SUPPOSED to teach about electron shells and electron clouds, with different energy states. That's what I'm talking about -- you can't pinpoint an electron in a shell/cloud but you can give probabilities about the places it COULD be. That's how the electron shells are defined -- they're the region of highest probability for an electron of a given energy state.

Ashy 05-29-2012 09:31 PM

If you strip it back to the bases, it's similar to the concept of an equation having a variable having two possibilities. Until you actually apply it you can't know which it is, thus the cat being both until you look. It's actually way more complex than that but that's how my uni lecturer explained it to us.

And coda is right on the electrons :P

Alpha 05-29-2012 09:33 PM

Okay, maybe not technical but more of an in depth explanation and analysis. Not that that's a bad thing.

Espy 05-29-2012 09:35 PM

.......Ah, okay. (Note that talking about this kind of stuff is my definition of "having fun"...)

Ashy 05-29-2012 09:37 PM

yeah me too :P

thats why i love convos with coda <3

Espy 05-29-2012 09:39 PM

-grumbles a bit while working through Wiki's entry on superstring theory-

Arikana 05-29-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashy (Post 1211125)
no tickling the staff for di clues :P

But I wants to know what they are like now. It'd be good for planning ahead... >w>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reyoki (Post 1211126)
*observes the cruel and unusual punishment*

Extreme tickling is so NOT cruel or unusual. >.>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucid: (Post 1211169)
;~~~~~~;
Lucid for-seriously honestly doesn't know this month.

Aww, reallys? D:
Can I look into your brain to see for myself? >.>

Yokuutsu 05-29-2012 10:34 PM

Did the extra aurum thing go away?

Espy 05-29-2012 10:36 PM

Yup, it did.

Lucid: 05-29-2012 10:37 PM

You probably don't want to be going through my brain. It's for your own safety, you know.

Yokuutsu 05-29-2012 10:38 PM

Awww....that makes me sad. That was the part I liked the most XD

Alpha 05-29-2012 10:38 PM

If I knew, you wouldn't want to be crawling through mine either....lots of things in there no one needs to see.

Arikana 05-29-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucid: (Post 1211614)
You probably don't want to be going through my brain. It's for your own safety, you know.

Why not? You're brain can't be that bad?
*prepares my inception tools anyways* owo

Lucid: 05-29-2012 11:04 PM

Noooooooo! Not Inception! **prepares guards and giant train**

Ashy 05-29-2012 11:08 PM

aww and im just short of 100k T_T

Espy 05-29-2012 11:12 PM

...Ari, do you need help with that plan?

Alpha 05-29-2012 11:13 PM

No! No inceptioning people! *has still never seen that movie*

Ashy 05-29-2012 11:14 PM

i havent either alpha :P

Illusion 05-30-2012 12:11 AM

Hey did the aurum rate go back to normal?

Lucid: 05-30-2012 12:17 AM

Why yes, yes it did. Thank you for noticing.

Sadrain 05-30-2012 08:49 AM

Still, no one has told me about how long this will be going, hahah.

Ginger 05-30-2012 09:09 AM

Aww.. back to being poor for Ginger xD

Arikana 05-30-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucid: (Post 1211679)
Noooooooo! Not Inception! **prepares guards and giant train**

I'll just keep finding a way out of things. No guards or giant train will be able to stop me!! >3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espy (Post 1211700)
...Ari, do you need help with that plan?

Sure! :] Got any ideas on countering giant trains? P:

Ashy 05-30-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sadrain (Post 1212121)
Still, no one has told me about how long this will be going, hahah.

Illusion needs to go back a few pages and read my posts :o

Tiva 05-30-2012 10:47 PM

Illu and Sadrain are confusing me on top

Alpha 05-30-2012 10:50 PM

Me to.....Sadrain is Illusion's clone maybe?

Belial 05-30-2012 11:20 PM

I've yet to get a full set so don't feel bad.
Then again I can't be here as much as I would like.
If I get a couple things then I am happy.

Arikana 05-31-2012 12:19 AM

Lol, I'm amused by how Ashy mistook Sadrain for Illusion. XD

Ashy 05-31-2012 12:22 AM

yeah im just so used to telling illusion to go read things

Ultima 05-31-2012 12:33 AM

Haha, I'd mistake that avatar for Illusion. Mostly because well... The blue-purple color that he always uses in his avatar (and that Sadrain is rocking right now), I actually literally call it "Illusion color" .... Yeah, it's a problem XD


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