Sorry it took me so long to respond, Quiet, I... kind of forgot about this thread. :p

Those are the Celestial Sprite eyes with Silvary's layered underneath.

And... I am thoroughly exhausted, have been all day. Trying to write, but it just isn't happening.

Join the club. Me too, though you already knew that from my previous lamenting I'm sure. Must. Finish. Poem. Make. Submission. Deadline.

Ooo deadlines...what are you doing here and not writing then, Quiet? ><

@Suzerain, Just because your quest stops getting activity every day doesn't mean you can...FORGET about it D:

Amusing myself while I'm trying to write. It would help if I opened the word file I suppose, but I do most of mu work in my head anyway, and just write it out when I get enough to work with.

-pokes Suzerain- And I remember when we'd all come in here to talk...

Yeah... whatever happened to that? :p

I haven't been gaming at all lately, which removes a fairly large discussion topic, and we took my RP and my RPG to other threads, leaving us with... very little.

Must think of a new topic.

Well, it's not like my quest thread gets any loving, and I even put it in my sig >.>; I haven't been doing much interesting either though.

I fail on the deadline. Oh well. Better to not have forced things. So I tell myself.

Hey Sheol, can I borrow some stuff for my cosplay contest entry? I'll give it right back after I post it. :)(and NO saying who it's going to be!)

Hmm... yeah, I'd be okay with that. I know you'll give them back. :)

And you know where to find me if I don't. ;)

Quiet, I'm kind of lazy to look right now...does Celestial Werewolf have a brownish red skin for it?

No, not really. It has dark gey with red accents, light grey with white accents, and white with blue accents.

Ugh, that sucks. I'd need a brown or brown/red wolf skin for a cosplay idea :/

Does Zephyr' skin work? Darberus has a brown bottom with a tail, and his helmet has ears. That's what I had with my wolfy look. Darberus bundle plue the celestial wolf skin.

Zephyr's is more "tiger" and I need "wolf" for this. It's this guy: http://bof.wikia.com/wiki/Bo

Actually, Celestial Werewolf doesn't really have the wolf face going? I might have to abandon this idea.

No, there isn't really a face going, and like zephyr you need more than one set to use the nose and skin adn tail and such. the closes thing to a wolf face I know of is the wolfy cap thing and even that is the wrong colour.

Oh well, I guess it was too advanced for this site with the items we have currently. I had gotten the woodland archer and wanted to put the bow to use and he was the first one I thought of.

Ah. Where there are lots of more or less humanoid characters with bows I imagine. Though some might be a titch obvious. (eg. Link, any elf to speak of... Disney Robin Hood with the Kitsune mask maybe? Goddess Artemis? or Diana if you like the Roman end.)

I remember Bo! You really like your BoF cosplays, huh?

I'm drawing a blank on other bow-using characters, sorry.

I do like the BoF characters, really, I need to do Katt's demon form sometime. As for other bow using characters, I was going to do Rena from Elsword, or Lire from Grand Chase eventually. I just wanted to do a boy for the contest.

Hmm... yeah, bows are usually given to female characters for some reason. I think there's a TV Trope for that. Obviously the longbow is designed for use by fighters who don't have the physical strength to wade into melee...

...except it requires more strength to draw a longbow than to swing a warhammer effectively. :|

As one who has used a longbow before I can agree to that. Well, it was only a four foot bow so maybe it was just a medium bow, not a long one. What I don't understand is all the game things which also have the archers have large breasts...they would get in the way of bow use >.>;

And here I just play with recurves. Not that I can do much with them. My draw is 26 pounds or so, which is enough to get a good stot wedged into a straw target but not to kill somebody in armour, I'm sure.

I want my bow back now. :(. My cousin last had it since I never went to the archery range without him when I moved to the mainland. God knows where it is now. I'll have to start pestering him in earnest since we've started shooting bows out at the farm. I'll need some new arrows though. Mine are probably too short by now.

I think longbows used in war were in the 120 to 150 pound range, which is the sort of draw that requires years of muscle development to achieve, as far as I know. And would result in a rather developed upper body, which is why it's so ridiculous when character like Shana in Legend of Dragon use the longbow as their primary weapon.

I'm guessing from appearances she's rather twiggy.

I believe a legal hunting bow is 60pounds minimum draw, so 120 pound has serious death potential. Never though of the upper body thing. Make sense though. The odd DnD character I have might need some revamping. Curse you societal impressions!

TvTropes says the meta behind it is that it keeps graceful female characters out of the carnage of a melee.

In reality, people of either gender who aren't conditioned for battle just shouldn't be fighting in one. Unless there are firearms available. :p

I'd have to agree with that, Suzerain. If you're battle hardened enough to survive brutal fights, it's pretty hard to look delicate anymore.

Well, let's be charitable here. It's not like female warriors are commonly depicted as having the proper musculature, even when they do fight in close-quarters. In some settings at least, it's equal-opportunity silliness (like... DnD, say) but then you have the settings where the men are muscled behemoths and the women are waif-fu battlemasters (like a of JRPG settings.)

It's rare to see a character like Brienne of Tarth, but, then, G.R.R.M. prides himself on realism.

Game makers tend to go for the "appearance" thing which probably explains most of the looks and outfits of people. I remember one of the Forgotten Realms books though, with a suit of women's armor with a hole to show cleavage, which was enchanted to completely block any hits made there :p

Where the armour stops before it actually covers the bulk of the heart? That kind of visuals? :p

Women don't *usually* develop as much muscle as men (we're tougher instead ;)) so it makes sense they wouldn't look as physically strong seeing as that's not our thing, but yeah. Big, six foot long, foot and a half wide sword plus 24 inche waist and 10 inch diameter arms equals something not right.

You're on a roll tonight. :D

And, I have to wonder, why bother having a specific enchanted armor for that particular purpose, when the Glamered enchantment exists? It's so much more flexible, besides. Maybe so... tactile... sensation... isn't impaired? I do not understand such things.

Sigh. Would you believe I actually messed that sentence up three times? And yet my fiction seems to be going alright. No hurry on that I guess.

I don't remember the specifics of WHY the armor was like that. I only remember how it worked.

I have noticed that women can be a lighter looking build and still be just as strong, or at least, use the strength in similar ways. -shrugs- If it all comes down to looks it's a silly comparison to make anyways.

...I get the feeling I'm missing out on a videogame-conceptart-character-outfit related discussion. >.>

I think it started from complaining about longbows and the types of people USUALLY portrayed as using them?

Bare thighs anyone? In the winter? Oh but this fur coat will be fine! No wind anywhere to possibly blow it open or move it in any way as to explose bare skin to frosbite.

Anyone else not partiual to hugging pointed armour? I don't imagine it being the most comfortable thing to drape on.

Well, 90% of armor depicted in fiction is flat-out ridiculous anyway, so that's hardly surprising.

I mean, seriously, how many people here even know what a rondel is, let alone have seen one in a film or game?

Umm you might have got me on that one, though I think I already looked it up and promptly forgot again. I konw I used to know it. :)

Right, for those of you playing at home, rondels are steel discs on plate armor located at the elbows and the armpits. They look really stupid, which is why, I imagine, they are shown very often, but armor without them, even if it's otherwise-complete full plate, is rather obviously vulnerable.

Ah, right. Those little concave shieldy looking things (that occasionally come with a spike). Gotta keep those swords from cutting your arm off at the pit.