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littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 07:12 PM

if it follows a 24 hour rotation like earth it would in a 24 hour period cross over the others, they all move together i assume in a way that would allow this moon to have phases so like the moon which would cross over the planets would too only they are much /much/ larger than a moon so they would be visible each time they crossed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wgJK9S45I start at 45 seconds and assume the small sun is the moon surounding the three planets, now bretend the small sun is the three planets orbiting the sun, if they all rotate then they should have periods where they have lunar phases, because of the nature of gravity the moon, even if magically powered, should move in the same general way as the other planets. this means the moon would have to go closer and farther to the sun giving it phases, the planets following the same general angle would also move around meaning that they would have to each wax and wane in their daily orbit


short of it the planets would have to circle each other while circling the sun for a moon to be able to orbit all three of them, physics demands it. giving them roughly equal parts of the moon of course means they must be fairly level with each other which would mean they'd have to cross each other to rotate

Coda 05-03-2013 08:21 PM

If their orbits are at a very slight angle -- all it takes is to deviate from flat by one planetary diameter -- then eclipses will only happen when the planets are both coplanar and at the same point in their orbits.

littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 08:24 PM

but then that messes up the orbit of the moon in relation to the planets

littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 08:26 PM

do the planets not have phases to the moon or have only partial visibility?

Coda 05-03-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by littl3chocobo (Post 1553240)
but then that messes up the orbit of the moon in relation to the planets

No it doesn't, not any more than our own moon's orbit is messed up -- our moon is 5 degrees off the ecliptic plane but that doesn't cause any problems.

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do the planets not have phases to the moon or have only partial visibility?
I can't see any reason not to have phases, and I figure that Toamna might not be visible in the sky during the part of the lunar month where it's on the other side of the sun from the observer.

littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 09:52 PM

but it would have to move around all the planets, if it takes 14 days to go around one then it mean copious amounts of time with no moon at all

Coda 05-03-2013 10:37 PM

Probably so. It stands to reason, really, that a moon that's only visible in the sky half the time, with a lunar month that's probably a large fraction of the solar year, that Toamna would be a mystical presence, and festivals would be scheduled around such events as its perigee or its first appearance of the season.

In fact, I would assume Nox Nocturnalis occurs on the perigee, since that's when Toamna would be closest.

littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 10:41 PM

as bullshitty as that is it would make sense though it still leaves a lot of questions unanswered and makes me worry about the aquatic life

Coda 05-03-2013 10:49 PM

Well, Deivai is home to the biggest variety of aquatic life, and it IS the planet with its own moon, so it sort of makes sense there too.

littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 10:51 PM

makes me wonder if the other two planets were uninhabited and if they used to be natural or is they were made by the peoples of the first

Coda 05-03-2013 11:04 PM

Well, remember that Trisphee's solar system used to be very different in the past until things got out of hand; Toamna's magically-enforced behavior is there to preserve the worlds, so there could easily be things there now that might not have evolved on their own where the planets are now.

littl3chocobo 05-03-2013 11:08 PM

is the sun dying?

Umaeril 05-04-2013 10:14 AM

I wonder why you ask that question Choco? *curious* Well after reading all this I think it would be difficult to do a divination system without having actual details of eclipses and the effect of the roving moon and so forth. Very complex system. The only stumbling block is there is no real schematic of the orbits and relative distances and of the eccentric moon movement.

littl3chocobo 05-04-2013 03:28 PM

choco is one of those people who, if he has asked a question that leads to another, will keep asking until whomever he is asking says to go away X'D i know a little tiny bit about planets and physics and stuff so this is something i can know enough about to have a need to ask questions

Nexess 05-04-2013 07:08 PM

I can explain this simply for everyone that is asking how the planets work as they are, MAGIC. I'm actually serious too. But if you want to know more, or other specifics I'm open for people to actually PM me them.

(As I am the one writing this stuff usually....)

Ashy 05-06-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexess (Post 1553843)
I can explain this simply for everyone that is asking how the planets work as they are, MAGIC. I'm actually serious too. But if you want to know more, or other specifics I'm open for people to actually PM me them.

(As I am the one writing this stuff usually....)

exactly as nexy has said, everything speculated in this thread is answerable with magic >.>


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