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Echo-chan713 07-26-2011 11:33 AM

Nightmare killed her permanently

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 12:14 PM

That would depend on which ending, if any of them, from SC4 is canon. They might make up a new ending to follow off of. I can't remember what they did for the other games.

Echo-chan713 07-26-2011 01:36 PM

I wouldn't know

Quiet Man Cometh 07-26-2011 05:56 PM

Something tells me there would be a massive fan uprising if Siefreid were to be cut out. He appears in most or all the editions, doesn't he? Doesn't he have somem connection with Nightmare?

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 06:06 PM

I believe he's been in all of them (though he was just an alt. costume for Nightmare in SC2). He was Nightmare for a while. Nightmare used to just be Soul Edge possessing Siegfried's body, but eventually he was exorcised by the Soul Calibur, leaving Nightmare just an animate suit of armor powered by Soul Edge. In 4, Siegfried became bonded with Soul Calibur in the same way.

It appears that he isn't anymore, though, since he's lost his ice armor in 5.

Tarrek 07-26-2011 06:55 PM

I can't speak of each game individually. It's been too lobng since I've played them. I will say that Nightmare is my favorite character.
Also, I don't remember which one it was in, I think 2, but there was a mode that was like an rts type thing where your characters ran around and took towers and stuff. I loved that mode.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 07:00 PM

That was Chronicles of the Sword in SC3. A lot of people have been clamoring for its return in SC5, so let's keep our fingers crossed. That was the best thing to ever happen to the series (well, that, and create-a-soul.)

Tarrek 07-26-2011 07:08 PM

All that I really want is a create-a-soul where what you look like doesn't influence your fighting ability. Maybe they could make stats and such a separite section.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 07:27 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to level up weapon styles or even characters and having them have stat increases. But tying it into clothing is just dumb.

Fey 07-26-2011 08:28 PM

oooooooo, yes, I love alllllllll the games of this series, and own all but 4 since I do not yet have a system to play it on! Doesn't mean I've not played it, just don't own it LOL

Fav characters go by the game so:
Soul Blade: Taki, ninja chick for the win!
Soul Calibur 2: Ivy, OMG I still want her mock pirate outfit!
Soul Calibur 3: Aaaaaaaaaamy, pretty pretty loli will put the hurt on you!!
Soul Calibur 4: Hmm, toss up...I always love Raphael as a good secondary for any game, but this time I can be yoda AND Darth Vader...
Soul Calibur 5: CANNOT WAIT TO FIND OUT!!

As to sigfrieds connection ot nightmare, nightmare is the 'evil' that sigrieds soul created when he was possessed by the sword, so yeah, super connected.

I'm a fighting game NUT so really, I love this game for the fact that it's old school, great combos, great taunts, and faaaaaaaabulous designs! When they introduced Creat-a-Soul...well...then it just got perfect :)

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 08:32 PM

I wonder if they're going to bring back a random character in 5. They didn't have one in 4 for some reason. Then again, I never really saw the appeal, given that there's a random button anyway.

Fey 07-26-2011 08:35 PM

really? I never noticed that they took that away, but I usually go right for my created character or raphael when I convince friends to play it

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 08:44 PM

Maybe that's why they took it out. Who wants to play as some faceless, random mook like Charade? Not when there are custom characters to use, especially.

And about Raphael, did you get a feel for how much he changed on 4? I used to love playing as him, but he just felt so different, I couldn't get into his new moveset at all. Amy, now... that's where it's at. Used to destroy people online with her.

Fey 07-26-2011 08:56 PM

Okay, funnily enough I found raphael easier to use, but some of his moves reverted to his soul blade ones, which I knew better than the 'new' moves of 2 and 3. Amy, yeah, I can kill eeeeeeeveryone with her.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 09:01 PM

She's just so fast. And stabby! Stabby stabby stabby! :D

Fey 07-26-2011 09:03 PM

but daddy taught her to be sooooooo stabby, he's a good daddy for that LOL
though, I do have to say...wtf amy is up with that outfit, seriously, wtf

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 09:13 PM

Yeah, Amy's outfit tends to be the subject of much discussion on the fansites...

*sigh*

Fey 07-26-2011 09:14 PM

I loved her outfit in 3, made perfect sense...but then...the fur...and the bad corset..and the combat boots...its like every bad hot topic moment rolled into one.

Echo-chan713 07-26-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fey (Post 814683)
oooooooo, yes, I love alllllllll the games of this series, and own all but 4 since I do not yet have a system to play it on! Doesn't mean I've not played it, just don't own it LOL

Fav characters go by the game so:
Soul Blade: Taki, ninja chick for the win!
Soul Calibur 2: Ivy, OMG I still want her mock pirate outfit!
Soul Calibur 3: Aaaaaaaaaamy, pretty pretty loli will put the hurt on you!!
Soul Calibur 4: Hmm, toss up...I always love Raphael as a good secondary for any game, but this time I can be yoda AND Darth Vader...
Soul Calibur 5: CANNOT WAIT TO FIND OUT!!

As to sigfrieds connection ot nightmare, nightmare is the 'evil' that sigrieds soul created when he was possessed by the sword, so yeah, super connected.

I'm a fighting game NUT so really, I love this game for the fact that it's old school, great combos, great taunts, and faaaaaaaabulous designs! When they introduced Creat-a-Soul...well...then it just got perfect :)

Maybe you can cosplay as Ivy in her mock pirate outfit from SC2

Fey 07-26-2011 09:22 PM

one day, ooooooone day. for now I am content with my SC3 Amy costume :D

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 09:30 PM

Here is the most recent trailer, showing all the new characters. I like Zwei (the guy with the one-handed sword about halfway through). There's speculation that he's a werewolf.

And... it is... so... lovely to see that Ivy maintains here time-honored tradition of not wearing pants. :|

Fey 07-26-2011 09:33 PM

OMFG
I want to be a size four NOWWW!!!
Ivy's otufit has a MINI jacket!!! I'm a huuuuuuuuge sucker for them!
O.O

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 09:35 PM

Yes, she's wearing approximately 400% more clothing than she did in SC4. /facepalm.

Ivy was best when she had that pirate costume you mentioned above. I don't really see how the way she dresses fits her character, given she's like... a celibate hermit or something, isn't she?

Fey 07-26-2011 09:39 PM

er, well...I think they're more matching her weapon, a 'whip' sword and all...and besides, they could only milk Taki's painted on ninja suit for so long before they needed something skimpier.
but yes, this and Ivys pirate outfit are now my favourites...though I did like her SC2 alternate as well. Can't wait to see everyone else's looks!

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 09:42 PM

I also noticed that Mitsurugi's hair is black in that trailer. I wonder why. It's been 17 years... and he'd look badass with gray hair. :p

Fey 07-26-2011 09:47 PM

yeah he totally would, but maybe he just won't go grey, some guys are like that

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 09:50 PM

I really hope they bring Zasalamel back. He's immortal, so there's no reason to write him out of the story due to age. I always love flinging people around with his scythe.

He's apparently bad, going by what the really skilled people say. No diea why, I think he's great.

Fey 07-26-2011 09:56 PM

well he's not bad, his reaction times are just...off...I guess. drives me nuts

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 10:02 PM

How about Yoshimitsu? Anyone play him? I've never been able to get the hang of him, but I've gotten DESTROYED by people who know what they're doing with him before.

Fey 07-26-2011 10:06 PM

not him, but my best friend can rend you limb from limb with voldo :: shivers:: who creeps me out like NONE OTHER

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 10:09 PM

Yeah, those two are the masters of unpredictability. Always tough to go against when someone skilled is using them.

And there's also a psychological factor. You're right, Voldo is really damned creepy.

Fey 07-26-2011 10:14 PM

which makes me wonder if he'll be in five...the creepy never die

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 10:14 PM

Yeah, he'd be like 80, wouldn't he?

It just wouldn't be SC without him in it, though. Creepiness and all.

Fey 07-26-2011 10:16 PM

I'm trying to recall if he was in Edge...I don't think so....but I could be wrong. WAs super excited to see Rock back in 4 though, he'd been gone a looooooong time

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 10:17 PM

I'm betting that Rock's son, Bangoo, makes it into SC5. He hasn't been revealed yet, though.

Fey 07-26-2011 10:21 PM

OH I'd forgotten about him!!! that would be awesome if they did put him in there! Dangit, now I wanna go play edge >.>....

Quiet Man Cometh 07-26-2011 11:05 PM

I like Stabby stabby! Hence my liking both Amy and Raphael. :)

Is there a secret character in SC3? Can't recall if it was SC3 or 4 but I was reading about speculation that Dante was going to appear, causing much debate as whether or not it was true, especially given the Capcom and whomever own SC apparently really don't like each other.

Fey 07-26-2011 11:13 PM

well yes and no, for each system the game was on there were 'bonus' characters. Heihachi, Link and the one guy who's name has escaped me now..........daaaaaaaaangit...he had a bad movie in the 90s...............aaaaaargh, gonna bug me...SPAWN! dangit, knew I knew it

Suzerain of Sheol 07-26-2011 11:16 PM

There were no guest characters in SC3. I remember that rumor about Dante, though.

Someone suggested Ezio for SC5, which I think would be pretty awesome. He'd fit really well.

Fey 07-26-2011 11:19 PM

was it two they were in :: ponders:: don't recall...just remember feeling all bummed that I got it for the PS2 and I just got dumb heihachi


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