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Gallagher 11-23-2013 06:08 PM

Okay. Law. Law bby.

My tip for you.

Stop. Slow down. You do not need to do all the things in one post. Please. Take a breath.

And on that note, do not have Thomas step forward. You do not control him. We know he will save Dante, but will he react immediately? Will he curse her out first? Will he need to be convinced? WE don't know until SUZE makes him react.

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:09 PM

I thought you could use it for both...or am I thinking of something else...
...That's why I was running it past you all...

Suzerain of Sheol 11-23-2013 06:12 PM

TVTROPES TO THE RESCUE!

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:14 PM

Plot points:
Rurik retrieves Dante from the snakes
Kadia joins Thomas's part of the fight
Rurik gets Dante to Kadia, but she can't fix the issue...

Okay...I didn't realize that about Defibrillators. Kadia will go back to the first aid technique, then.

Espy 11-23-2013 06:18 PM

So, my usual fix for that'd be to have Kadia just look at Thomas. If he cares enough, he'll prob help, or at least yell at her first.

Gallagher 11-23-2013 06:19 PM

The snakes are all dead already, right?

I like the idea of her trying defib, but she will look kinda dumb if you keep it in. Dunno if you mind that.

I am loving this mini-drama here though, getting Thomas to help when she can't. It tickles me.

Honestly, I'm mostly good with the post right up until around where she's clot sucking.

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:23 PM

I am a bit confused about doing "all the things"
I would say I am surprised at how little I know, but knowing where I came from, I am not.


Espy 11-23-2013 06:26 PM

No, it's not just that part that's problematic -- she's doing a lot of stuff in a long sequence. Space it out a bit. You don't need to do that all in one post. Let someone else maybe interfere.

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:29 PM

Oh...
*Much cursing as that was only 1/3 of what was written*



Gallagher 11-23-2013 06:37 PM

You can space it out just by delving into what's going on around her, not just what she's doing. Is she so focused that she doesn't really notice anyone else anymore? Is she jumpy about more snakes getting him again? Does she feel like time is racing against her, or it's all going slow, even her own movements?

You're doing well. Take a step back for a while if you need it. It's alright.

-sees edit- Actually.

Rurik's part is good. I would cut Kadia's first paragraph, because the snakes are pretty much handled, then break up her actions a bit more like you did with his. Of course, it's up to you.

...

One more slight note on the actual aid aspects, there's no way he would get cold and stiff that quickly. It could easily be her panic and imagination making her think it, though.

Suzerain of Sheol 11-23-2013 06:39 PM

Not only are the snakes mostly handled his soldiers are actually completely impervious to them -- they're wearing powered, exoskeletal titanium armor. Honestly, we all should have just retreated down the hallway and let them block off the entrance, speaking tactically.

Espy 11-23-2013 06:40 PM

Depending on the type of venom, stiffness from swelling is quite possible. Also, muscle cells can turn stuff when battling foreign substances.

TBH, Dante's decent constitution gives him a bit more time than any normal person in terms of how long it'd take for him to succumb to the toxin's effects. Hence, he wouldn't be puking or running a fever until an hour or so in.

Gallagher 11-23-2013 06:41 PM

HELL VENOM, ESPY.

Espy 11-23-2013 06:42 PM

I...okay, I...oh, fine. Hmph.

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:44 PM

Dante is dead in 10 minutes. He is lucky it isn't the soul-stealing kind. (May be bending it here, but that may be because it has the tortured angel's soul)
I need to research the dying process, now...in a while...
*Is in the habit of burying the dead, bot so much seeing their final moments, unless it is sudden death stuff...

Gallagher 11-23-2013 06:47 PM

Rigor sets in in about 4 hours or so, give or take, and the body has to actually dissipate its heat before it's cold, so it will take a bit. Like Espy said, stiffness could happen from swelling, but that is a very different kind.

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:51 PM

Okay...as said, I am used to dealing with road splats and burying those who died overnight. I'll need to look it (dying) up some more.

Espy 11-23-2013 06:53 PM

-grimace- I think most of the people in here aren't quite right in the head. Hell, I might even be the only one who's never actually had to deal w depression. Yet.

Lawtan 11-23-2013 06:58 PM

*Offers Flower*

Suzerain of Sheol 11-23-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1600568)
Okay...as said, I am used to dealing with road splats and burying those who died overnight. I'll need to look it (dying) up some more.

Are you a mortician, Lawtan?

Lawtan 11-23-2013 07:14 PM

Nope. Just life.

Espy 11-24-2013 02:16 PM

Suze, correct me if I'm wrong, but Law -- I think you use a few too many adjectives and names at times.

Suzerain of Sheol 11-24-2013 03:13 PM

I don't know, I've definitely seen worse, and the names thing is a bit of a tough call with how many characters we have on-screen, when the default is to, for instance, call Dante "the blind man", that really shouldn't happen more than once a post.

I didn't notice all that many adjectives in his last post, or at least where there were they were conveying relevant or semi-relevant information for the most part. I mean, there are probably places where the rhythm of a sentence would be helped by excising them, but again, I'm a lot more lenient on RP posts than I am on formal writing.

If I had to call out one thing, it'd be the instance where Rurik is "rapidly clawing", it's a good example of when not to use an ad-verb, since it doesn't really tell us anything essential about the action or why he's performing it. Lawtan, you seem to be pretty good with ad-verbs in general, though, since I haven't noticed many like that so far, which is good. (I tend to notice :P)

Anyway, you *can* have Kadia do something too, if you want, Law, either in this post or just make a separate one. When we talk about keeping your posts reined-in, we mean the actual content of what happens, you can make them 7 or 8 paragraphs or more if you want to really get into the psychoses of what your characters are going through (see Salone's posts :D), but it's hardly necessary, either.

Just need to find your balance. :)

Anyway, I'll probably make a post tonight with Thomas (don't have much for Diogenes to do, but we'll see.), so if anyone wants to squeeze anything else in before then, now's your chance.

Lawtan 11-24-2013 03:27 PM

I would say don't be lenient - my education sucks, in truth - but also, that I can't correct everything at once, and as Espy could tell you, I have a strong personal inclination to "focus on only one thing" and simultaneously "do everything at once."

What is confusing to me is that I can't personally tell how the other posts are better.

I think I made a mistake with Kadia...I am not sure I can write her correctly, as of yet...and there is a great deal of my issues that come into writing her. She is supposed to be stronger than she is, but so far is coming across as an ant-like rebel crybaby.

Suzerain of Sheol 11-24-2013 03:45 PM

It's unfortunately not just about sparing your feelings, Lawtan, I have to keep the game running, so we can't afford to critique and revise sessions for every post -- which is why I keep encouraging you to post some writing in your other thread, so we can work on stuff together and really dig into the minute mechanics and everything.

As for Kadia, it's up to you what you want to do with her, but we're coming to the end of this mission, she could very easily go her separate ways from these people if she wanted to, and you could bring someone new in.

Or since it's more apropos, "Through Eden take her solitary way."

You tell me.

Lawtan 11-24-2013 03:53 PM

As to why I have trouble posting in the other area right now...I am short on time. And my mind is having issues going back and forth...a lack of knowing where to go with my other stories/characters...and a worry that they are all the same..

I may employ that "Kadia-Rurik thing I mentioned...if I get the chance."

It is just hard seeing the very things I despise about myself - my weaknesses - are personified so easily in both the writing and actions of Kadia.

As a note, if I am messing up the game too much, just tell me and I'll leave. I hate being a burden.

Gallagher 11-24-2013 04:02 PM

Oi Law, if you'd like, you can always do character work with meeeeeeeeeeee. We can do some quick and dirty roleplaying to help you get a bunch of different character scenarios, it would be fun.

Lawtan 11-24-2013 04:12 PM

I'd appreciate that.
I would today, but I have a boatload of homework - just got two new assignments today.

Gallagher 11-24-2013 04:12 PM

Just tell me if you'd rather keep it private in PMs or an easy-to-see thread and I can throw something together for you.

Suzerain of Sheol 11-25-2013 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1600666)

As a note, if I am messing up the game too much, just tell me and I'll leave. I hate being a burden.

I've told you before you're welcome here. You haven't done anything nearly disruptive enough, because, most importantly, you're willing to learn and work with us, and that goes a long way.

And you're really not doing that bad, Law. This thing with Kadia and Thomas is *fine*, conflict between characters is great RPing fodder and brings life to the story (imagine how much more boring this bit with the snakes would have been without that leading up to it.)

Honestly, I'd prefer it if we had *more* arguments among the party, let's not delude ourselves: most of these people are sociopathic at best, there should be friction. Friction is fun!

(And in the foreseeable future there will be no overpowering domineering NPCs. I'm perfectly fine with you guys throwing my plans awry and killing the NPCs, it just needs to be believable and fit into the context of the story.)

Anyway, will try and work on that post.

Quiet Man Cometh 11-25-2013 12:24 AM

Your post is confusing me a titch, Lawtan. Nothing big though, and no need to edit anything. What do you mean by "syringe pumps?" Are you referring to the syringe's plunger? (The plastic part you push). Note that the syringe is the plastic part that holds the liquid. It may or may not have a needle attached to it.

Lawtan 11-25-2013 12:48 AM

Well...the pumps are mechanical and can exert a large amount of suction/pressure to carry Kadia's mixes of chemicals to be emptied in needle/syringe-like "hoses" almost.
(And yes, this was made up on the spot, so this may not be technically right...imagine a mix between an IV...and an adjustable fire hose.)
And...yeah...I realize that is a bit redundant of a name...better than "medicine-pump-thingy"
I'm surprised you notice these things.

Gallagher 11-25-2013 12:54 AM

I'm glad that you added Kadia's section back in. It makes the post feel more complete than if it was just the robowolf. Not that he isn't cool, but he isn't the one your character profile was all about.

Suzerain of Sheol 11-25-2013 01:05 AM

Also, slippery-scaled fellows:


Lawtan 11-25-2013 01:14 AM

Kadia:To Hell with-shit, we're already in hell...to Heaven with you snakes!
XD

Espy 11-25-2013 01:36 AM

Alternatively, "May Abaddon turn your piss pure fire." >.>

Lawtan 11-25-2013 01:44 AM

Umm...that's sort of what Dante got...replace urine with blood...
You just gave me an idea...
New Threads!

Espy 11-25-2013 02:14 AM

....Oh boy. I am concerned.

Suzerain of Sheol 11-25-2013 02:17 AM

:O Whyever for?

Espy 11-25-2013 02:20 AM

That replacing urine with blood gave Law an idea.

Whoops. Wasn't planning for him to actually die, but that's fine, too.


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