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Gallagher 12-11-2013 02:55 AM

It isn't about tasting good. It's about filling up to the tippy top.

Espy 12-11-2013 03:05 AM

I FORGOT TO POST AGAIN I will before Friday.

Hopefully.

Lawtan 12-11-2013 03:22 AM

...my arm stew asploded

Salone 12-11-2013 12:33 PM

Oh believe me. Eventually, all flesh will be consumed and repurposed.

Espy 12-12-2013 03:55 PM

Gave myself some leeway in case emotional shit happens again in a few.

Lawtan 12-12-2013 04:05 PM

*Adds improve writing quality to list of winter activities*
That was well written, Espy.

Espy 12-13-2013 05:42 AM

Immediately thought of Suze when I saw this: http://file5.ratemyserver.net/mobs/2283.gif

Suzerain of Sheol 12-13-2013 05:54 PM

I think your image might be broken, Espy.

Unless a cute face with "RateMyServer.net" at the top made you think of me. :P

Lawtan 12-13-2013 05:56 PM

But you are a cute face, Bunny-Suze!
*Hugs bunny*

Espy 12-13-2013 05:57 PM

....Balls. Must be a hotlink thing.

Espy 12-13-2013 05:59 PM

...Apparently that one image is broken. Strange.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...Nest/Agent.gif

Suzerain of Sheol 12-13-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1603719)
But you are a cute face, Bunny-Suze!
*Hugs bunny*

*backs away from slowly*

And I can't possibly imagine why that would make you think of me, Espy. :D

Also: in the process of reading Le Morte d'Arthur, he keeps using the word "espy", which makes me do a double take each time. :P

Lawtan 12-13-2013 11:01 PM

*Laughs*

*did not realize that - haven't gotten to that one yet/have been focusing more on the background myths around Arthur than Arthur's own tale*

Long Live Sir Espy!

Suzerain of Sheol 12-13-2013 11:12 PM

Oh, no, I don't mean it's the name of a character, it's a word. As in, "Merlin then did go seeking the king, and did espy him by yon fountain."

Also, I know it's my turn. Will post as soon as I've been able to sleep enough to gather the requisite brain energy.

Lawtan 12-13-2013 11:18 PM

Take your time - I'm a-driving home tomorrow, and won't be on.

Lawtan 12-14-2013 02:33 AM

So...I'll be trying to set up Skype this weekend...

Suzerain of Sheol 12-14-2013 02:43 AM

Capital!

It's not very hard to do so, luckily.

Espy 12-14-2013 03:14 AM

I'll excuse Dante's lack of interest in Lev by way of thundering headache and general confusion and disoriented-ness.

Lawtan 12-14-2013 03:35 AM

It's my turn...
I'll write after I am finished packing...

Kadia, sensing the gun-toting man, blanched. Almost without warning, her impulse starts spinning a firewheel, about to send it towards the presence radiating of burned atmosphere and gorged on toxins. She kills the impulse, recalling that Dante and the priest were now vulnerable. Mentally, she commands Rurik to stop his charge and fall back from the possessed Lev.

Espy 12-14-2013 03:43 AM

You know, I was wondering -- if, through that processes of resurrection, the body is transformed into the "perfect physical representation of the spirit", wouldn't personality flaws be manifested as physical defects?

Suzerain of Sheol 12-14-2013 04:06 AM

Not necessarily since the spirit is sort of a raw essentiality of the self which is given definition by the experiences of the mind. Only powerful souls can develop conscious minds to survive divorced from the body. Consequently, body-hopping is a terribly inefficient means of immortality unless the soul is powerful enough to just use the body as a puppet and has no need for the brain to produce consciousness.

Lawtan 12-14-2013 04:11 AM

...or insane enough...
Why does that sound familiar...
Ever read The Necromancer?

Espy 12-14-2013 04:15 AM

I...uh....think you might have missed my point there. I'd attempt to explain, but sleep should be had and my head is about to implode anyhow.

Suzerain of Sheol 12-14-2013 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1603812)
...or insane enough...
Why does that sound familiar...
Ever read The Necromancer?

I don't believe so... I read the Chronicles of the Necromancer, but that's as close I can recall. :P

Gallagher 12-14-2013 04:25 AM

My issue with that logic is the fact that "flaws" and "defects" are so subjective, and in practice are even harder to pick out.

The first issue being, how could you equate flaw to a defect? Is being obnoxiously loud equal to having a lazy eye? How would you even, what?

But let's say you can work out a system, something awesome and poetic, like the shallow turning blind or some other nonsense. Then the issue becomes, how do you define a personality flaw in the first place?

In purest form, there is nothing inherently wrong with any character traits. You only start to pick out flaws once you apply boundaries to what's acceptable - boundaries defined by such fickle things as age, gender, race, nationality... not to mention society as a whole, and the current situation in which two people are interacting. Being kind in some situations is, obviously, good, but in others it's naive or dangerous. Obviously people have to learn how to change the way they behave to survive (either literally or socially), and certain personalities will be better suited to some than others.

If that isn't complicated enough, you also have to consider how our behaviors are shaped by the ways we're raised. Some people, sadly, never overcome the negative influences in their lives. They always hang onto the negative behaviors and/or thinkings they learn. What counts in that situation? What others see, or the underlying personality?

In settings like ours, all "flaws" would only be perceived ones, I think. And the spirit doesn't give a shit about the rules you try to set for it. You might as well try and pick out a flawed set of fingerprints.

You can't. You have one, or you don't.

Lawtan 12-14-2013 04:40 AM

(Actually one person did something like that - but simplified it to being a "progressive corrupt limb" thing.)
It could be either "Limb came back partially decayed" or "person used up part of their potential life force" - older...
Or, the spirit corroded the unused pathways from the blind eyes to the brain, making Dante's blindness irreversible...
I would say it would be an effect of alcoholism or something...

*Note: not countering Galla's comment

*The Necromancer was a Frankenstein-like fellow who wound up in a conspiracy with a magical necromancer, was stalked by witch hunters, and became a "body-snatching" spirit in order to survive...

Espy 12-14-2013 10:50 AM

Not making an example specific to Dante -- this idea just popped up: Like, what if short-sightedness and such led to issues with a person's eyes, like near/farsightedness, and say...selfishness or a complete disregard for others resulted in blindness?

Yeah, I get your issues with it, and this system would be extremely limited anyhow. It was just a concept I was playing around with.

Suzerain of Sheol 12-14-2013 04:47 PM

Like I said, only a superior soul could develop consciousness sufficient to produce the quality "shortsightedness" -- such souls have transcended the body to which they were once bound, and to attempt to transmute them into the form of flesh once more would require an entirely different kind of ritual, and likely result in all sorts of strangeness if it were successful.

Basically, personality flaws are symptoms of the physical brain channeling the animation of the soul. If he were to bind Dante's body to a different corpse, for instance, the odds of Dante being the same person immediately after would be unlikely. He may *find himself* after a great deal experience, but he also be colored by the imprinted memories of the brain he was now using. If that makes sense.

Salone 12-15-2013 12:01 AM

If Na'lsa/Lev had been a character in the 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HtSZaQqiBg

And if you want some good reads on the current subject, I highly suggest the Necroscope/Deadspeak series.

Espy 12-15-2013 12:11 AM

So FYI, Dante will do his best to kick Lev as hard as he possibly can in the crotch if Nalsa attempts to eat him. He also would like to mention that he prefers to not be dinner.

Salone 12-15-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espy (Post 1603903)
So FYI, Dante will do his best to kick Lev as hard as he possibly can in the crotch if Nalsa attempts to eat him. He also would like to mention that he prefers to not be dinner.

I actually want this to happen.

Na'lsa is still getting the hang of this "being physical" thing. So far he's only inspired murderous rages, not actually been one.

That and the idea of a nearly timeless mad demon of Gluttony being kicked in the balls that aren't even his is kind of tickles me.

Espy 12-15-2013 12:22 AM

....-groans loudly and pretends to be asleep-

Lawtan 12-15-2013 12:23 AM

Kadia seconds that...
Rurik seconds the second...though metal may taste a bit weird anyway...

Espy 12-15-2013 12:24 AM

-snickers- I just may have to draw that.

Lawtan 12-15-2013 12:26 AM

*Kadia resists urge to make a Gluttony kebob*

Espy 12-15-2013 12:37 AM

Doubt that'd be tasty.

Salone 12-15-2013 12:39 AM

Funny you should mention taste.

Espy 12-15-2013 12:52 AM

-grumbles something incoherent-

Lawtan 12-15-2013 12:57 AM

-Tosses Na'lsa a snake corpse- Eat this!

Salone 12-15-2013 12:59 AM

I just figured the worst thing would be to endlessly experience hunger but to never taste what you consumed. Always filling but never filled, never sated, never satisfied. To consume the very spice of life but to only taste bland flesh. It just seems like it would be maddening.

A demon suffering from Hyposmia, pretty much.


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