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Illusion 11-02-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1668876)
I've been wondering something, did Lady Scrimshaw get the only meal that was specifically made to her tastes (being a lighter meal) or were the rest of the meals also made to try and fit what they seem to like?

You should ask Alabaster that...

ml1201 11-02-2015 06:25 PM

But I used all three of my questions. ^^;

MonBon 11-02-2015 06:25 PM

I don't think that characters dying really clears anyone. And Then There Were None taught me that. All it does is make it so we can interrogate less people :(

CupcakeDolly 11-02-2015 07:25 PM

I've been wondering about that as well, so I'll go ahead and ask.
Pchoooo!

ml1201 11-02-2015 08:29 PM

Thank you cupcake! XD *snuggles*

Salone 11-02-2015 08:41 PM

Hey ml, no worries! The questions are reset whenever a new chapter is posted, so you can ask away again! I'll be home in a sec and then I can update answers for questions from the interrogation thread.

CupcakeDolly 11-02-2015 10:41 PM

Damn, I have at least three different theories floating in my head now.
Just gotta see who dies.
DIE, DAMN YOU!
(Everyone in the story is kind of an awful person, so I don't feel too bad about shouting that)

Illusion 11-02-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CupcakeDolly (Post 1668963)
Damn, I have at least three different theories floating in my head now.
Just gotta see who dies.
DIE, DAMN YOU!
(Everyone in the story is kind of an awful person, so I don't feel too bad about shouting that)

Alabaster is the only genuinely decent person, everyone else are kind of asses.
But still. IT'S ALWAYS THE BUTLER. ALWAYS. And for all eternity!

ml1201 11-02-2015 10:58 PM

I have my suspicion as being Tavish, he actually gains the most out of the two deaths. Which is the reason I asked those questions to verify my suspicions. :3

CupcakeDolly 11-02-2015 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1668966)
Alabaster is the only genuinely decent person, everyone else are kind of asses.
But still. IT'S ALWAYS THE BUTLER. ALWAYS. And for all eternity!

That's part of why I suspect him though! He is just... too NICE.

I have my suspicions about Tavish too. But like I said... it won't be any clearer until someone else dies.

ml1201 11-03-2015 08:54 AM

So this still makes it possible for an outsider to have done the murder, while actually trying to kill Lady Scrimshaw.

Gallagher 11-03-2015 11:34 AM

An outsider? Oh dear...

The Murderer: Lawtan

How they did it: Carefully

Why: he 2 spoopy

MonBon 11-03-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Gallagher (Post 1669057)
An outsider? Oh dear...

The Murderer: Lawtan

How they did it: Carefully

Why: he 2 spoopy

I agree

Lawtan 11-03-2015 12:52 PM

You caught me. *hangs head*
XD
Nah, I am more likely to think that the two murders are done for different reasons by different people.

I am sort of between three or four folk. Alabaster is the only one I am discounting because of cliche and way too easy to pin it on him.

CupcakeDolly 11-03-2015 01:15 PM

Pretty sure there's only one killer? If there's more than one, that would be a bitch to solve, as we'd have to get the right combination of killers and motives in order to win.
And Salone wouldn't be that lame.
Right?
...Right?

MonBon 11-03-2015 03:59 PM

This might have been answered already, but do the characters have to respond honestly to our interrogation questions?

Illusion 11-03-2015 04:23 PM

His wife dies and Dervy is still a bit of an asshole.

.... Other than Alabaster Dervy sounds more like the culprit.

Salone 11-03-2015 04:46 PM

I can confirm that there is only one actual killer, although they could have assistance or no assistance, as well as other guests accidentally helping or hindering them. And while they do not have to answer honestly, liars are known to accidentally drop clues or sometimes say too much while trying to cover their tracks. You all are doing so well so far, I'm really loving how much investigating you're doing!

CupcakeDolly 11-03-2015 09:01 PM

So the liars are lying liarfaces, but they might not be that good at being untruthful?
Hmm......
-goes back to read interrogations-

ml1201 11-03-2015 09:06 PM

Yeah, you have to find that one little bit of inconsistency, but it would be nicer if there were more people asking questions, I have a ton! And since I missed out on the first round I highly doubt that I'd be allowed to ask three questions for the previous round. T-T

Salone 11-03-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1669129)
Yeah, you have to find that one little bit of inconsistency, but it would be nicer if there were more people asking questions, I have a ton! And since I missed out on the first round I highly doubt that I'd be allowed to ask three questions for the previous round. T-T

Weeeeeeell....tell you what. The killer might be heartless, but I'm not. Everyone (so far) has a total of six questions they can ask. A question can contain multiple requests. Soyeah if you missed a round, go ahead. Besides, you guys are just so in to it.

EDIT: Six total, not extra. So a lot of you have already hit that number or are near.

ml1201 11-03-2015 09:13 PM

OWO
Salone, I love you! XD *glomps and snuggles*

Salone 11-03-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1669136)
OWO
Salone, I love you! XD *glomps and snuggles*

D'aaaaw! That's why I do it. Well that and you know, mystery. I think I'll throw something special or extra at the specific person who gets the first correct accusation.

ml1201 11-04-2015 12:22 AM

Well, this means that Tavish wasn't fully truthful in his statement about the rest being present since Bosney was not there the whole time. Which means there could be others that weren't there the whole time. But if what Alabaster says is true then that means Bosney did have a chance before dinner was served to poison the food. What we need to do is ask Lady Scrimshaw if Bosney was actually with her the entire time, though I suspect the answer would be no since she took him to her library whilst she went to her room. However he doesn't stand to gain anything from killing Gunther. He has actually been investigating Tavish this whole time, which means that someone could have also purposely done this during the time Bosney was not present for the entire time in order to set him up to look like the culprit. Hmmm...I wish I could ask more questions...Maybe I can pester DK to ask some for me! :D

Salone 11-04-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1669193)
Maybe I can pester DK to ask some for me! :D

Yes, yes! Bring more in to the fold! Mwahahaha!

ml1201 11-04-2015 12:26 AM

lol, I'll post on her wall with the questions asking if she can ask them for me. XD

CupcakeDolly 11-04-2015 12:29 AM

Well crap, reading over the investigation just presents more motives and opportunities for all of the murders.
@_@
If the answer turns out to be really simple, I am going to be mad.
SO mad.

Salone 11-04-2015 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CupcakeDolly (Post 1669200)
Well crap, reading over the investigation just presents more motives and opportunities for all of the murders.
@_@
If the answer turns out to be really simple, I am going to be mad.
SO mad.

I cannot wait to do the big reveal. Some of you guys have actually asked very important and specific questions that, if you closely examine the responses to, spell out what happened and gives clues as to who did it and why. In fact, I would say that this evening has turned out in a way that even the killer wasn't planning on. Everything is a whirlwind of murder and mayhem!

ml1201 11-04-2015 12:44 AM

lol, That would be my fault, I like watching Bones, Criminal Minds, Medium and NCIS. XD Sadly I'm not good at putting pieces together, but VERY good at asking 'uncomfortable' questions. XD

Also, going to point out that Alabaster wouldn't benefit from killing the two victims. Firstly because his mistress would gain nothing from Gunther's death and it actually hinders her because of her opinion of peasants. He basically kept them in control and content enough to do their job and that's all she really cares about in that regard. Secondly, if the rumors going around about him wanting to gain all her fortune when she passes is true, he wouldn't need to check the seating arrangement diorama he had set up for serving the food, he could have just poisoned her drink since that wouldn't change even if her served her the wrong food. Not to mention that by looking at Gunther's title he would possibly be the one to over see where Scrimshaw's fortune goes upon death, being what seems to be the political head in the town. He'd rather have someone he knows really well and know ways to work around them then have a bafoon who has no clue what they are doing and possibly making it harder or take longer with what he's tying to get.

A thought just occurred to me though while I was musing. owo

Illusion 11-04-2015 12:58 AM

I figured out!

THE KILLER IS
-Stabbed-
/dies

ml1201 11-04-2015 01:03 AM

I still think Tavish is the one to have done it since he currently stands as the one to profit the most from it. Also the fact that almost everyone else seems to know his wife's only interest in him is his money, only a fool of a man wouldn't notice that about the woman he married. And by the way he conducts business he doesn't seem like a fool, if anything more like a cunning snake.

CupcakeDolly 11-04-2015 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1669205)
Also, going to point out that Alabaster wouldn't benefit from killing the two victims.

He wouldn't benefit, but there's still the possibility of him killing them without fully knowing what he was doing. It's been hinted at heavily by several people that his medical condition leaves him confused enough to do so. Even if it wasn't him directly, someone else could have been using that to their advantage.

ml1201 11-04-2015 01:49 AM

Yes, which is why I have asked a friend to ask a few questions. XD They might not seem like much but they are interesting questions none the less. :3

Lawtan 11-04-2015 10:34 AM

Personally, Tavish and Alabaster seemed too obvious subjects to me. Of course, the rising corporate rising star would be the villain. Of course the Butler would do it.
I'd have to reread the Lady Scrimshaw's position towards Lord Long-name...

ml1201 11-04-2015 01:25 PM

Now I have another question after seeing the response Den got. D: I wonder if anyone else knows that Gunther had been looking into that incident with Bonsey where he was the only one to come back alive and all. Because if Gunther was indeed doing so, the person to ask if they know about that is the one person he has been avoiding, Molatto. If I can get DK to ask those sets of questions for me one of them would be able to show that Bonsey would have had a chance for the second murder and the first one. As for why he'd want to kill Tavish's wife, maybe she would have ben able to tell us something about the kitchen or the cellar that would have convicted Bonsey and was thus forced to kill her to keep it secret.

Illusion 11-04-2015 04:33 PM

ml thought of a conversational trap!

*Claps*

I should ask everyone a very important question... BOXERS OR BRIEFS?

And for the ladies...

PANTIES OR PANTYHOSE.

I'm sure we discover the killer this way as well.

Den 11-04-2015 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1669276)
Now I have another question after seeing the response Den got. D: I wonder if anyone else knows that Gunther had been looking into that incident with Bonsey where he was the only one to come back alive and all. Because if Gunther was indeed doing so, the person to ask if they know about that is the one person he has been avoiding, Molatto. If I can get DK to ask those sets of questions for me one of them would be able to show that Bonsey would have had a chance for the second murder and the first one. As for why he'd want to kill Tavish's wife, maybe she would have ben able to tell us something about the kitchen or the cellar that would have convicted Bonsey and was thus forced to kill her to keep it secret.

I could ask... I still have a few questions for this round...

Lawtan 11-04-2015 08:40 PM

Actually, could someone ask Bosney about the accuracy of his diagnosis of Lord Gunther's death? Laudanum overdose, to my knowledge, doesn't act so suddenly and dramatically. (It could be just that way for the story, or I am misinformed, but I'd like to know)

CupcakeDolly 11-04-2015 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1669382)
Actually, could someone ask Bosney about the accuracy of his diagnosis of Lord Gunther's death? Laudanum overdose, to my knowledge, doesn't act so suddenly and dramatically. (It could be just that way for the story, or I am misinformed, but I'd like to know)

One of the first things I did after reading the second chapter was to look up the effects of a laudanum overdose. The story stated that they were about halfway through their meal which, at a fancy-schmancy dinner party would be what... fifteen to thirty minutes after they'd taken the first bite? Which would have been plenty of time for the drug to settle in Lord Longname's system. And according to the all-knowing, all-encompassing wikipedia, a large laudanum overdose can cause "severe respiratory depression or collapse and death."
It's still possible that there could be another means of murder unknown to everyone else, but I feel like it would require too much interrogation to find out.

ml1201 11-04-2015 09:35 PM

Dk asked the questions, so now to wait fro answers. owo Though if anyone wants to as where the other guests were the hour before dinner and who they had seen that would be helpful.


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