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Suzerain of Sheol 11-09-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1597063)
And where can I find out more about the demonic forces beyond the info link?

You pretty much have to ask me, or school yourself in classical demonology and then ask me if specific things apply here.

But, in short, "demons" here are not the denizens of Hell (Hell is peopled by the fallen angels of the first and second revolts in Heaven led by Satan and Semyaza respectively).

Demons exist outside of reality in the primordial nothingness into which sprang the Light of Genesis, the "dark materials"* from which God sculpted the universe. They are beings inimical to the laws of physics and essentially abstract and eldritch entities, not strictly personalized or possessing identity or will.

Fallen angels on the other hand, have been cursed by God and denied their Heavenly forms, and have over the millennia been twisted by the essential Hell within their own souls (is a complicated concept found in Paradise Lost) into a near-infinity of abominable shapes.

No two fallen angels are alike, though the most powerful faction among them (led by Beelzebub, Satan's second), self-styled the "Princes of Hell" retain some vestige of their angelic form and lordly mind, and are not *entirely* opposed to humanity in this struggle, though they're hardly on friendly terms either -- they're consumed by their own struggle to maintain control of Hell over the hordes of their corrupted brethren, and to guard the shores of the Abyss to prevent true Demons from assailing the material realms.

(None of that is even touching Abaddon's forces from Sheol, which is an entirely different matter altogether.)

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Gallagher 11-09-2013 02:51 AM

yeeeah, Suze's universe here is way complex, you're best of directing your questions to him before doing outside research.

-blinks- ... Oh, Suzeboo, it is too late for me to brain those funny words.

Espy 11-09-2013 02:56 AM

Oops, sorry, passed out for a bit. Okay, then I might make him go there. But that'll be tomorrow, and only if no one else has posted anything for him to interact with.

Quiet Man Cometh 11-09-2013 11:57 AM

That passage makes sense now! Hooray!
My biblical lore is somewhat lacking. As is my knowledge of Paradise Lost. And Milton in general...

Quiet Man Cometh 11-09-2013 02:13 PM

Oh, and as a general note, I'm pronouncing Tarja's name with a soft 'j' sound, not a 'y.'

Suzerain of Sheol 11-09-2013 02:40 PM

Oh I forgot to address mages last night:

There's nothing so simple as typical fantasy magic to be found here. For the various powers available, there is:

Psykhosis -- including (but not necessarily limited to) psychokinesis (pyro-, cryo-, electro-, tele-), telepathy, precognition (in the enhanced reaction-time variety, not seeing the future), and biofeedback (psychometabolism, optimizing the functionings of the body by taking direct control of subconscious brain functions)

Theurgy -- Spiritual magic drawing power from the heavenly or hellish planes. Can manipulate reality to produce miracles at the wielder's will. Is powered by the soul of the user, opens a conduit to the higher planes which allows the caster to manipulate the quintessence and overwrite the laws of reality temporarily. It has very little to do with faith or lack thereof, as the existence of celestial powers is an observable fact. About 85% of theurges channel Heaven as it's merely overwhelming, not actively harmful/insanity-inducing, though Hell sorcery can produce rawer, more primal and devastating effects for the same effort and skill.

Necromancy -- Manipulation of the relationship between the soul and body. Can duplicate some of the effects of theurgic healing miracles, but at a terrible cost (to either the user or the recipient) as it deals with the actual *extant* function of the soul in reality, and doesn't supernaturally shape reality to perform its function. Primarily geared toward controlling or destroying the undead, and killing the living, though it has other applications. It takes a horrendous toll on the body of the necromancer and will eventually kill them, though if their soul is powerful enough, it will live on bodiless as an Emim (Emite, singular?)

Arikana 11-09-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gallagher (Post 1596985)
-waves at Ari-


*waves back?*

Well, if you can see me, I'm gonna assume that I'm still alive. Unless if I've become a ghost? o3o

Suzerain of Sheol 11-10-2013 01:14 AM

Espy: Since I promised not to inst-kill Dante, allow me to advise not, um, diving straight through the door if you do have him make a break for the chapel. Uh, caution would... caution be advised. Yes, that's it.

Gallagher 11-10-2013 02:12 AM

I have a thing, before I forget for another two weeks to actually post it. I'm 98% sure that it covers absolutely everything you might need to know and more, unlike my current creep.


Gallagher 11-10-2013 02:20 AM

He won't be joining for like 30 years, but if I don't get it posted, I'll accidentally delete all that mess eventually, so yeah.

Quiet Man Cometh 11-10-2013 03:57 AM

And here I thought we had someone who could put our dismembered body parts back together.

That reminds me, I have a few other things to add to my sheet. I forgot to mention the psychic resistance part. Any objects it makes sense for a non-combat oriented psychic to carry around?

EDIT: Or not. Seems I already had those details in, minus inventory tweaking.

Gallagher 11-10-2013 05:57 AM

Hurhur. You ain't seen no medic till you seen a Galla style medic.

Arikana 11-10-2013 09:10 AM

Hm, interesting character and nice to finally read his bio. :P

Suzerain of Sheol 11-10-2013 01:05 PM

If you're referring to Thomas, you do NOT want to see his brand of "healing". Leave the setting things on fire to him, fixing people up to someone else. He's also an NPC and we do not have a Party Priest Insurance Policy in the event of his, er, timely demise.

Espy 11-10-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzerain of Sheol (Post 1597315)
Espy: Since I promised not to inst-kill Dante, allow me to advise not, um, diving straight through the door if you do have him make a break for the chapel. Uh, caution would... caution be advised. Yes, that's it.

...Is that doddering old priest going to dismember me?

But okay, yeah. Will probably make him bash through the window first with the pommel of his sword.

Espy 11-10-2013 06:23 PM

Short post is short.


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