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dragoness129 05-29-2011 11:52 PM

Sounds pretty good. ^_^
I am waiting for so many things to come out on Netflix still.
Good acting and costumes are always really great!

Suzerain of Sheol 05-29-2011 11:55 PM

Well, if you do end up watching it, do everything you can to avoid spoilers. There's some massive plot twists, and I had most of them ruined for me years before the show came out (which is when I got into the books, too).

dragoness129 05-29-2011 11:59 PM

Ah, alright. I do not normally look for any spoilers, that just takes the fun out of things.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-30-2011 12:01 AM

Well, I never thought I would read the books before the show came out, so whenever someone was discussing the books online for whatever reason, I never made any effort to avoid spoilers.

dragoness129 05-30-2011 12:07 AM

Ah, that is a good idea.

Serra Britt 05-30-2011 01:11 AM

-drools over all the sword pictures-

Umm, I mean..

I love looking at them, well made blades are wonderful to look at they just aren't under my interest for collecting.

Sushi 05-30-2011 11:13 AM

-pokes thread-
Everyone needs to wake up! D:

Suzerain of Sheol 05-30-2011 04:12 PM

Mm, sorry, I was out all day today (what?! Me leaving the house? Madness. :p). Haven't been able to check in.

Anyway, speaking of Game of Thrones above, has anyone caught that Camelot show on Starz? I think it's horrible, but maybe I'm missing something.

Sushi 05-30-2011 07:12 PM

Nah, I haven't seen it. Maybe I should look it up.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-30-2011 08:11 PM

Well, I can give a brief summary. Gonna try not to rant, unless anyone here really wants me.

It's basically a re-imagining of the Arthur myth, that's for one thing "darker-and-gritter" (read: gratuitous nudity at every opportunity), and for another plays around with the characters so much that the story bears almost no resemblance to any of the Arthur myths I've ever read, besides the characters' names.

Arthur is played by a model. Not an actor, a model. He's also supposed to be around 16 and spends more time trying to have sex than trying to run his country. He's arrogant, thick-headed, self-centered, and indecisive. This is the messianic king of Britain who's prophesied to return? Who would even want him?

What I really hate about it is that a t.v. series is the perfect way to tell the traditional myth, with all the various knights and their subplots, but instead, the producers have decided to turn out this sensationalist, two-dimensional garbage, probably to be able to be in "competition" with HBO's Game of Thrones, except... there really isn't any competition.

In the immortal words of Dennis the Peasant, "King of the who?"

Serra Britt 05-30-2011 08:25 PM

That sounds...terrible. Unless you like gratuitous nudity I guess? But it seems like maybe it would have been better if they had called it something else instead of Camelot?

Suzerain of Sheol 05-30-2011 08:33 PM

I know, that's what irks me is that now, there likely won't be an actual Arthurian t.v. series for... years, at least. The story would do great as a multi-season series, I think. It's just such a shame that they went in this direction.

And I am about as far from being a fan of gratuitous nudity as it's possible to be, so that's just another nail in the coffin for it, to me. It's so... juvenile of these networks to resort to that, like they're jumping up and down and saying "Look at me! Look what I can show that they can't show on cable!"

And, granted, HBO does the same thing with Game of Thrones, but at least in that show the sex scenes are used for character development, taking at least somewhat away from the gratuity element. In Camelot, they just serve no purpose whatsoever. I think it was episode 5 (the last one I watched, which was a couple of weeks ago) a few of Arthur's knights (none of whom have recognizable names from the myth) are staying in some lord's castle overnight, and then, all the sudden... look, naked dancers! Look, group sex! *rolls eyes*

On top of that, aren't the knights of the round table supposed to be paragons of Christian virtue? That seems woefully out of character. I could be wrong on that count, though, it's been years since I read the myths.

Serra Britt 05-30-2011 08:39 PM

I'm not sure I ever read the myths but I'm sure they didn't have graphic sex in them -.- Nudity or sex for a reason is fine but just haveing it there as an aside or for fan service is just... ugh. Unfortunately I'm sure there's a lot of people who DO like that so they will watch it anyways >>

Suzerain of Sheol 05-30-2011 08:51 PM

I've actually been told off for complaining about stuff like that in movies and t.v., numerous times. Calling scenes like that waste of time is apparently offensive to some people who... enjoy them... somehow. But, what do I know? I'm asexual. :p

I'm sure it all comes down to marketing and what not, anyway. Which is kind of depressing, in a way, but it's the way it is. Plus, those companies like HBO, Starz, and the like have a reputation for that sort of thing by now. They'd probably lose customers if they stopped indulging in it.

Serra Britt 05-30-2011 09:00 PM

That's true, and you know, people have to pay extra for those channels so maybe they just want their porn there without paying even more extra xD

CupcakeDolly 05-30-2011 11:18 PM

Suzerain, I have a Helias' Armament that I'll part with for super cheap.

I remember first hearing about HBO as a porn channel, so I guess some people think of it as such. =P I like only like a few shows from Showtime and HBO, but HBO is losing the race. Especially by cheapening True Blood with Sookie's idiotic whore of a brother, just for the sex-scene-per-episode aspect. Dead Like Me is the only HBO show that I'm a true fan of, and that shit got cancelled. =/

And Starz... No thanks.


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