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Illusion 06-15-2015 11:42 PM

Sony E3 Conference: The Last Guardian, FF7 Remake, Shenmue 3, and Horizon Zero Dawn
 
Just beautiful, best E3 conference I've seen yet.

The Last Guardian was a nuke to begin with, but with FF7 and Shenmue 3 it looks like Sony successfully killed me on Earth, Heaven, Nirvana, or whatever mythological or religious plane of existence there was.

The Last Guardian Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXLZvsSmBIs

Final Fantasy 7 Remake trailer and reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EELUk0XxPrM

Horizon looks like Sony took The Legend of Zelda Wii U, Princess Mononoke, and gave it some snazzy next gen graphics and made an amazing game.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXhR2cnGy4Q

Shenmue 3 looks amazing and they have a kickstarter up for it, and it has already met it's goal. (Though Kickstarter hasn't been showing it properly.)
Kickstarter here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3

Not to mention already great games on their way like No Man's Sky and Uncharted 4.

I'm a very happy man right now!

ml1201 06-16-2015 12:35 AM

The Last Guardian looks interesting, no idea what that creature is though. o.O And that other one, Horizon, also looks interesting.

Illusion 06-16-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ml1201 (Post 1659240)
The Last Guardian looks interesting, no idea what that creature is though. o.O And that other one, Horizon, also looks interesting.

It's a griffon I believe, and it's like a puppy dog. If not it's a whole new made up breed all together.

Horizon looks like my mecha artwork with a more animal like influence to it. I really want a lot of answers on what this game is about, what created this world, and so on.

Demonskid 06-16-2015 06:21 AM

-Foams at the mouth- I NEED A PS4 I NEED A PS4!!! D8 -dies-

ml1201 06-16-2015 08:16 AM

lol, You're not the only one that needs a PS4 DK. XD I need to get one as well, though I'm thinking of getting the cheaper one of the PS3, keep my PS2, and just get like a small external hard drive for the PS3 to for the PS3 games I want.

Demonskid 06-16-2015 04:28 PM

FF7 Remake said PS4! D:< ML You need a PS4! *u* I found one on Fingerhut. 35$ a month for a little over a year and muwahahaha

Now if mom says its ok -paws at screen-

ml1201 06-16-2015 06:18 PM

Er, but there's also games for PS3 I want and PS4 is not backwards compatible. ^^;

Demonskid 06-16-2015 06:25 PM

then get both!

-dk has that same problem- they just need to make their digital games run across all their platforms that run digital games 3:<

ml1201 06-16-2015 06:41 PM

It has to do with the coding for the games, they have to convert from the older systems and now they don't think its worth the money. :/

Coda 06-16-2015 10:39 PM

It's not just a matter of making the coding work on both consoles. They're completely different systems on the inside, only related by the fact that they both have the word "Playstation" in the name.

The PS3 is a PowerPC CPU. The PS4 is an x86_64 CPU. This is like saying that the PS3 speaks English and the PS4 speaks Chinese -- if you wanted to perform, say, Hamlet on PS4, you'd have to rewrite the whole thing. And then if you wanted to perform Macbeth, you'd have to rewrite that whole thing, too. And so on, for every single title you want to support.

"But wait, Coda," I hear you ask, "the PS3 could run PS2 games, and they're completely different too!"

The first hardware revision of the PS3 actually included a tiny PS2 inside the case. When you wanted to play a PS2 game, the PS2 hardware took over. The second hardware revision of the PS3 actually ran a PS2 EMULATOR. The third hardware revision of the PS3 took that out entirely and couldn't play PS2 games at all.

"Then why didn't Sony do that with the PS4?"

Well, putting PS3 hardware inside every PS4 would have made it bigger, heavier, and more expensive, when almost all people interested in playing PS3 games already own a PS3 and would therefore get very little benefit out of it. And emulating the PS3 on the PS4 would have bad results; it would have a high chance of introducing bugs that weren't there before and it would possibly run slow.

Microsoft pulled the same thing with the Xbox, Xbox 360, and Xbox One -- the 360 started off trying to emulate Xbox games but discovered it didn't work well at all, so the XB1 doesn't even try. However, the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One are substantially closer in design, so even though the XB1 can't run 360 code directly, it's possible to use the source code from a 360 game to produce an equivalent XB1 title, so Microsoft set up a service where you put a 360 disc in the drive and it automatically goes online and downloads an XB1 version of the same game. (Unfortunately it's a fairly small list of games that it works with.)

ml1201 06-16-2015 11:51 PM

@.@
I understand but my head is a little sore. ^^;

Demonskid 06-19-2015 02:23 PM

that or they can make accessories that play older disks and umd's that we buy separately and hook up to the consoles ouo that would be cool

Illusion 06-19-2015 02:44 PM

Then you still would have to emulate it, I bet the PS4 can emulate PS2 and PS1 games without a problem.

Thing is, why should Sony allow this? They would lose money from people buying the same games over and over again each generation.

Streaming was pointless in my opinion because it wasn't price efficient and they ask too much for it for games I largely don't care about or have played already and don't really want to bother replaying.

ml1201 06-19-2015 07:28 PM

I found out that steam has FF4 and I bought it. >>; Then I got in the mood to play FF, and never got to play it because I forgot where I put it, then after I found it I had to get ready for bed. ^^;

CupcakeDolly 10-06-2015 10:18 PM

Eeee, I've been waiting for Guardian for yeeears! I was starting to think they'd ditched the project altogether.
I also recently replayed FF7 in anticipation of the remake. Well... Mostly my boyfriend/drunk house cat played, and I did a lot of the tedious side quests. I was very happy to hear that Cloud will still be cross-dressing in all of his 3D HD glory.

I don't understand the issue that everyone has with the PS4 not being backwards compatible. I mean, yeah, when I heard about it I was upset for a couple of moments, but then I shrugged it off. I have a PS3. If I want to play my older games, I shall use my PS3. No big whoop.

Illusion 10-06-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CupcakeDolly (Post 1664036)
Eeee, I've been waiting for Guardian for yeeears! I was starting to think they'd ditched the project altogether.
I also recently replayed FF7 in anticipation of the remake. Well... Mostly my boyfriend/drunk house cat played, and I did a lot of the tedious side quests. I was very happy to hear that Cloud will still be cross-dressing in all of his 3D HD glory.

I don't understand the issue that everyone has with the PS4 not being backwards compatible. I mean, yeah, when I heard about it I was upset for a couple of moments, but then I shrugged it off. I have a PS3. If I want to play my older games, I shall use my PS3. No big whoop.

Best way to put it, have you ever emulated a game? To play a PS3 game on PS4 you would have to emulate a PS3 and have it fit in the PS4. The reason why early PS3's could play PS2 games was because there was a computer in it that made it more expensive but allowed it to play PS2 games.

Glitch 10-06-2015 11:39 PM

I have everything but the ps1 and the ps3 plays ps1 discs so no problems for me o3o

I was upset that you can't play games you downloaded from the store on the ps4 though xD

--- I am super duper excited for the last guardian!

CupcakeDolly 10-07-2015 12:01 AM

Hopefully it's for the same reasons that you can't play discs from the older consoles, and not because Sony just wants your munneh.

I thiiiink you were the one who told me about Last Guardian, maybe? Back when it was called Toriko, or whatever.

Illusion 10-07-2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Winter (Post 1664040)
I have everything but the ps1 and the ps3 plays ps1 discs so no problems for me o3o

I was upset that you can't play games you downloaded from the store on the ps4 though xD

--- I am super duper excited for the last guardian!

Because PS3 has the same/similar computer that the PS1 had to play the games.


... I'm super excited for The Last Guardian as well. I'm still in shock at it's announcement at E3, let alone FF7:Re

CupcakeDolly 10-07-2015 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1664045)
... I'm super excited for The Last Guardian as well. I'm still in shock at it's announcement at E3, let alone FF7:Re

Am I the only one who also wants an FF8 reboot? I feel like I'm in a very, very small minority of fans who want that more than anything. D=

ml1201 10-07-2015 07:22 AM

You know, I've only played a demo of VIII, played X, XII, original Tactics, Tactics Advance and a little of I and III on hand held. ^^;

Illusion 10-07-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CupcakeDolly (Post 1664066)
Am I the only one who also wants an FF8 reboot? I feel like I'm in a very, very small minority of fans who want that more than anything. D=

I want a FF8 remake, but I don't want it like the original game whatsoever. I the story can keep it's plot twist ending, but I really think the game needs to become something else entirely.

6, 7, 8 are the 3 Final Fantasy games that need the HD remake treatment.

7 Is down, 2 more to go. <3

CupcakeDolly 10-07-2015 04:44 PM

If it wasn't like the original game at all, it would be a MEGA remake! xD I love the game, mostly because it's the title that got me into gaming in the first place. If they did remake it though, they could at least update the script, maybe make it less teen drama-y (a LOT less).

And... I still need to play 6. ._.

ml1201 10-07-2015 05:57 PM

It's a shame I didn't get into the games earlier, my real mother told me they suck, but that's because she's terrible at turn based games. >>;

CupcakeDolly 10-07-2015 08:17 PM

If YOU like turn-based games, you should consider giving them a shot. Most fans get into them for the story and characters rather than the gameplay anyway.

Illusion 10-07-2015 08:40 PM

I could never go back to the games, I've been spoiled and I can't stand sprites for games anymore. I want 3D polygons to replace everything and possibly updated graphics.

And the same goes for old PS1 games, I just want them remodeled and remade because they haven't aged well.

I just have this gripe with older looking games, the lowest quality games I'm okay with nowadays is mid to late year PS2 games.

*There are exceptions though*

Sei 10-07-2015 09:19 PM

I don't mind going back and playing games with sprites or early polygons because I played them when they were new. Besides, I still think some sprite games look amazing, especially more recent ones (I just got a copy and finished Bravely Default).

I do agree, though, that FF7 could do with an update. I just got to disc 3 again and it is definitely showing its age. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

I also want some other PS1/PS2 games re-made or remastered. The list could go on and on for me.

ml1201 10-07-2015 09:52 PM

Well, that was almost twenty years ago that my real mother told me that. XD By now I've played plenty of turn-based games and loved them, as you can see from what few FF games I've played. I actually realized that my real mother doesn't like turn based games after she played Legend of Dragoon (which I'd love to have remade, that and Blaze and Blade: The Eternal Quest).

I wish I could get a PS4 so that I can play Blood Bourne. T-T

Illusion 10-08-2015 12:02 AM

I'm tempted to get Bloodbourn, but I never got into Dark Souls because it didn't do a good job explaining how to play and the difficulty during the tutorial wasn't helping me learn. /Pleb

People aren't nice about trying to learn how to play the game when I talk about the game either. They just tell me I suck at video games and I should go play Mario. *eye roll*

Yet in a game very similar (Monster Hunter) I kick butt in it wearing no armor on fighting something that can 1hitko me like a boss. :3

ml1201 10-08-2015 08:27 AM

I think probably the best thing for you to do is pick the background that gives you the most stats, and grind a lot if possible to get souls/blood echos. That's basically how I'll probably be playing it when I do, but I like how they don't have 'levels' but instead a point system used for leveling up skills and stuff. :3

Speaking of, I want to get the new Monster Hunter game, I think I'd like it better on the 3DS than the Wii. ^^;

Coda 10-09-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1664045)
Because PS3 has the same/similar computer that the PS1 had to play the games.

False! The PS3 is simply powerful enough to emulate the PS1 in software. (So is the PS Vita for that matter.)

The first-generation PS3 did have the entire hardware of the PS2 inside its housing (miniaturized, but all there) so when it ran a PS2 game it just handed off control of the controllers, screen, and audio to the PS2 hardware. The second-generation PS3 hardware revision took that out as a cost-saving measure and TRIED to emulate the PS2 in software; compatibility was pretty bad and lots of games didn't work right, so this feature was dropped entirely in the third-generation PS3 revision.

Similarly, the PS2 actually had a miniaturized version of the PS1's hardware in it to enable backwards compatibility.

The Xbox 360 is a similar story to the 2nd-gen PS3; it can play original Xbox games through software emulation but not all titles are supported.

ml1201 10-09-2015 03:00 PM

Which is why I don't care about getting a backwards compatible PS3 since I have a PS2, not to mention it will also be cheaper. :3

Coda 10-09-2015 03:21 PM

A used first-gen PS3 is usually cheaper than a new latest-gen PS3 Slim.

Main reason I wish my PS3 could play PS2 games is because my TV doesn't have enough connections to hook up everything I want to plug into it, and the PS3 can upsample as well as output over HDMI. (The PS2 doesn't always have a great time when you have it hooked up with component video -- it wants to do progressive-scan output but not all games support it. The PS3 doesn't have that problem.)

ml1201 10-09-2015 03:58 PM

Well, I have an older tv and a monitor with HDMI, the HDMI monitor is currently only hooked up to the Retron 5 I have. x'D


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