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pompon-chan 12-17-2016 03:01 AM

What are the plans for trisphee?
 
Sorry if this is in the wrong place.
I can't seem to find a feedback where you actually make feedback posts, feel free to move this to where it really belongs, but since it is on the topic of trisphee talk I thought it was sort of related.

I popped in after being MIA for quite awhile, and I guess something just didn't keep me interested at that time. Coming back to the site, I have to wonder what are the plans for the site. I see items being put out and some body mods, assuming everyone is trying to keep up with gaia's standards. Aside from that the websites layout hasn't been touched, colors are the same and it seems to function like the old coding. Are you guys planning on upgrading and updating your features?

What are some features that you plan on adding to keep up with the competitive and "shiny" new avatar websites? And what is holding you back right now, or rather what are the challenges your facing in order to move forward in your journey.

I'm genuinely interested in what's happening behind the scenes and what precautions it takes to keep an older website interesting for the folks.

littl3chocobo 12-17-2016 03:37 AM

there is a whole buttload of stuff actually XD not just modding bases, there is going to be a new avi editor, an item search function, and more updates for proper hardware AND software compaibility

we also have a new shop and baseless options and the events are a bit more interactive than they used to be XD

Tohopekaliga 12-17-2016 03:44 AM

I post "Dev Diary" threads on Saturdays. Not every Saturday (There won't be one this weekend), but I try to do it when I can.



I am currently working on a new Avatar Editor, with a more streamlined experience, improved searching capabilities, and saving options. My current estimate is that it will be released in January.

Along with the Avatar Editor, there will also be a proper item gallery to allow easier browsing through items that aren't available in the shops currently.


Coda is working on a new rather major game feature for the site, which we'll talk about when that's closer to release.



The primary issue that Trisphee faces is...well. Money. Donations and advertising do provide enough money to cover server costs, and a bit extra for occasional commissioning of things, but we can't afford "real" employees like Gaia and some other sites can manage.

We have a few rather dedicated staffies that make things because they love to do it. Unfortunately, a web designer is not among us. I design things as I need to, but I'm not very good at it, so I hesitate to redo the whole site design. I make incremental changes as I get to them, but that is not an especially flashy thing to do.

The biggest design changes I've done were the front page, the shops, and axing the characters in the header, and aside from the header, that was because I built new features, so a newer design was required.

littl3chocobo 12-17-2016 03:49 AM

hey toho, my fiance actually says there is not much else to do design-wise XD it's fairly efficient and stable and anything else is visual fluff (granted he likes simple and streamlined like i do)

Tohopekaliga 12-17-2016 03:52 AM

True enough. It's not necessarily a bad thing that we don't really change the site design much. But general design on the web shifts over time, and people will often look at things that haven't changed, or look like "current" from 10 years ago as being "bad" or "dead," no matter what the actual state is.


There are improvements I want to make to the forum layout, but there's only so much I can do at a time...It's down my list a ways.

littl3chocobo 12-17-2016 03:59 AM

this is fair, i get that XD

pompon-chan 12-17-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tohopekaliga (Post 1740432)
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Those updates sound pretty nice, I'm sure the transparency in what's happening behind the scenes helps with the users.

A lot of websites really do struggle because of the lack of a good dev by their side. But it's nice to hear that your still trying to move things along on your own. That sort of dedication is definitely inspiring to see.

I'm sure a game will be a major bonus and help spike up the activity, since most forums these days do get boring quickly and a fun game by it's side helps boost the traffic.

I was browsing through the shops and noticed that the consistency in the art styles varies a bit item to item. What style are you going for these days? Is it supposed to be a softer shading style like gaia has or a more detailed, rough around the edges look?


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Originally Posted by littl3chocobo (Post 1740430)
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While I do agree that having a functional website isn't bad at all. The overall aesthetics are very important to attracting new users. There are a lot of things that jump out at you as outdated through out the website and while they aren't a deal breaker it would be something to improve upon. Web design is moving forward at a very high speed these days, they are always coming up with new innovative designs and while you don't have to be "hip" or up to date as everything is, keeping things moderately moving forward will show the public that you are trying to keep up with the times. As Toho mentioned, having a site look the same for the past 10 years will give you the impression that nothing is getting done, even if it's a small thing like a change of a banner or some colors and icons will spark up a conversation and excitement.

But in overall, it's nice to hear how you guys are trying to improve everything.

I'll stick around and see what the winter event brings. I'm a big fan of christmas event items. = u =

Moonshadow 12-17-2016 04:10 PM

I always say: If it ain't broke don't fix it!
I'm happy here, maybe I please easily, but I'm here more for the friendships and interaction and for me everything else is just a bonus!

Gallagher 12-17-2016 04:41 PM

Well, having things not be broken is great, but that doesn't mean they can't be improved.

I personally feel like sometimes it doesn't seem like we're getting much done, and I actually see behind the scenes things, so I can definitely see why some users would have concerns. But honestly, the way we're doing things now focusing on only one or two major things at a time, it's a lot better for making sure what we do change is working as well as possible. That is, as bug-free as we can get it without a ton of people around to break things in unexpected ways, and as fair and balanced as possible. A lot, and I mean A LOT, of sites have this big issue where they try and do too many exciting awesome things at once to keep interest at MAXIMUM LEVELS ALL THE TIME!!! And... that just ends up with a lot of half-baked features that are never as good as they had the potential to be.

I'm quite excited for the changes to our avatar editor, and the introduction of item tagging. As a hardcore outfit builder -flips hair- I'm of the opinion that no other feature on the entire site is as important, or says more about us, than the editor. It's, well, the cornerstone of everything we do! And these updates are long overdue.

Also, Gaia's editor and inventory and clipping and unisexing and color options are all bad and they should feel bed.

Salone 12-17-2016 09:48 PM

Well call me an old fogey but I happen to like the traditional color layout. It's simplistic without looking simple. I understand people have different tastes though, and a 'leave it how it is' attitude can give the wrong impression about the direction of the site. Don't think you have too much to worry about however! If any colours should be changed around here, it's that choice you made for text.

Coda 12-17-2016 11:19 PM

I actually am mulling over a new website design. I've got a general visual language already worked out, and the way I'll be piecing things together should make a big difference for mobile users. (The new front page is influenced by the new design, but it's built to stay true to the old one.) But in the grand scheme of things it's less important than a LOT of other things I need to do for the site, so I haven't spent any time on it lately and it's not currently on the list of priorities at all. It's definitely not going to happen before summer 2017 because that's how long our current list of stuff is going to take.

Moonshadow 12-17-2016 11:46 PM

I am still of the opinion and Gallagher stated that too many bells and whistles, done poorly, is not a great idea either. I prefer slow progress because I prefer that things be done right, and for the ultimate good of the site, that is kinda what I meant. Ernya did so many "dazzling" things, it was one after another, after another, that finally Prezok couldn't keep the site running anymore. So I prefer things not be "fixed" if they aren't broken. I think the progress on this site will be for the betterment of the site, not to dazzle us with brilliance! But that is just my humble opinion.

I am thrilled with the avi editor, saving avis is #1 for me, so this change I am thrilled about.

Vee 12-18-2016 12:36 AM

Hopefully to keep running because I love this place. ;>

Moonshadow 12-18-2016 01:19 AM

@Vee me too! This is the best one out there, and with the avi editor, I will be here and very happy.

Potironette 12-18-2016 01:27 AM

Bells and whistles... I think that the scroll-y banners and whatever happened to the front page made it look a lot better. The shop looks less old, though I've already forgotten how it looked previously.

I'm glad that the site looks simple enough so it's pretty clear that the focus is the forums and not the games/other tabs--one of the reasons I can stay with Trisphee for so long is because of how easy it is to view all the forum sections, and how not-broken-apart each section looks.

It's also pretty easy to view things as a guest (though it gets confusing when the games are clicked on and attempted).

...I like the colors, but it does look old, but then I find stuff like fancy colors and backgrounds kind of annoying @~@

pompon-chan 12-18-2016 01:50 AM

Sorry, I think I was misunderstood, I wasn't saying that the site should look a certain way nor how change should come quickly and not well thought out. The discussion was mostly regarding what change was being made or in plans and the fact that always striving to improve things should be a common factor between all sites.

I definitely agree that if changes and features are to be made, you should wait and make sure they work and fix all the bugs, etc, before jumping to the next thing.

It's definitely only my opinion, as I have not been apart of this community for a significant amount of time. I'm only stating my point of view as I've returned after 2-3 years to take a look at the state of the website.

That being said, from what seems to be the common opinion. " Don't fix what isn't broken"

My question then is, since you've come to enjoy this website and the state it's in. Why do you think others might be hesitant to stay or join?

Den 12-18-2016 02:11 AM

We may not be the flashiest girl at the dance, but we're stable and the community is good. The lack of bells and whistles may be what keeps people away, but for those who are looking for a more low-key, relaxed environment? We're a good fit. we don't move super fast, which is good, imnsho, and we've got a good sized group of regulars, so it's easy to make friends.

Gallagher 12-18-2016 06:26 AM

I think a new look would do us good, I just don't want to lose the functionality our layout has now in favor of some artistic nonsense. I can't stand when I'm unable to tell at a glance which forums have new posts and which I shouldn't bother checking.

Users that are hopping on for the first time would, I think, find our current layout to be dated. It would bother some of them, others not so much. Some are put off by how slow the community can be at certain times as well. It's hard to stay interested when you're on at odd hours when no one else is, or only people you don't know are on.

Also, it's a proven fact that most users that don't stay never had the chance to meet Galla. Yup. 100% tested.

littl3chocobo 12-18-2016 05:48 PM

i think if you account for the natural loss of registered users that never come back a second time(a loss through all non-gaming sites) then our lack of numbers may be our lack of communal permanence. when you are not driven to get on every single day you are not as likely to advertise, share or even mention for the site and we, as social animals, do most of our living in communities of persons we know

or more simply, if not a lot of people know about tris it wont grow very fast

Coda 12-18-2016 07:56 PM

Well, yeah. That kinda goes without saying: "if you want users to come back, give them a reason to come back." And we're working on that. :P But most users (at least the users worth caring about) come back because of content, not visuals.

mdom 12-18-2016 08:13 PM

Hm, I hope the changes help trisphee, too, because what stands out to most people is 'trisphee is dead', because there are only a few regulars and there's not a looot of activity.

Coda 12-18-2016 09:25 PM

Well, the best way to beat looking dead is to be active, and that's something our users can help us with.

Glitch 12-18-2016 09:26 PM

I don't know about you mdom, but I'm here every day spreadin my activities <3

Potironette 12-18-2016 09:33 PM

Having left for a few months, I think I came back for the people. As for the emails that get sent for events, I can't say because I don't check my email much :x


And attracting new people, trisphee was sort of hard to find, but when I was searching for avi sites there was one person, or maybe two people who mentioned it in a list.
...but that's only for people who aren't already a part of an avi site ^^;;

Coda 12-18-2016 10:12 PM

Brushed off a preview of what I was working on a while back... Nothing here is final at all, and it's technically not even in progress because it's just a mockup.


Lee 12-19-2016 12:30 AM

I kind of prefer the current look, actually. It's nice. I like the button-type gradients. But I'm also an old man.

Illusion 12-21-2016 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1741101)
Brushed off a preview of what I was working on a while back... Nothing here is final at all, and it's technically not even in progress because it's just a mockup.


Needs more shadows/clear looking boxes in areas and more cup holders in the other.

Coda 12-21-2016 07:44 PM

Huh. Drop shadows and translucency effects? Not a bad idea, actually. The header buttons especially could use the visual definition that a drop shadow would provide.

Moonshadow 12-22-2016 05:28 PM

I have mentioned this site to many people and about 5 have joined. I stay active at least once a day. These sites live and die really on who is running them. Icon sold Syndrone, everybody got all excited and happy, but now its been 2 months since anybody has heard from the new owners. I don't get the fascination with Caedon it is pretty primitative, but it seems to be very busy, go figure.

Raichu 01-19-2017 08:38 PM

The layout now is depressing and looks old. I'm a user who think the look of a site is almost as important as the quality and style on the art.

For me the forum index is too messy and have too much going on.
Too many icons and such.

The green color is sad and the flat boxed look doesnt really stand out anymore as it might have been in idk, 2009 or something.

Regualrs seem to forget that even though they might like the current look and doesnt like change, it wont help getting the place up and running by keeping everything look the same as the way it was. A site needs new users to keep going. Id imagine people would like new people to come around and stay yeah?

As ive said im someone who puts the aesthetic about a page pretty far up when deciding if i want to stay and spend my time somewhere.
A reason I can't seem to get into trisphee is because it doesnt seem anything is happening beside item releases. And when the layout is uninteresting and sad to look at.

Change isnt bad. Updating isnt bad, so it kinda irks me when old users say "but i like it the way it is" and doesnt give other feedback to how the site can improve. Without feedback no one can.

And I do imagine the staff and such would liek to get some feedback so they can change and make the site better. And get new users. New users means more possible donations too. So yeah, jsut my two cents lol

Layout is important :p


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