New avatar sites?
 

I don't want to seem like this is advertising. D:

Just wanna have a topic about avatar sites, specifically upcoming ones. o 3o
Though ones we have now are also acceptable for discussion.


So, anyone know of any up-coming/new avatar sites?
What's your favorite avatar site right now?
What ones are you looking forward to?
And what ones do you not like so much?

Also, I'd appreciate it if you guys didn't answer this like I'm surveying you. DD:

Lilifactory is a new one, and it's really small. They've already had one event, but the site is a bit slow.

Malthea is the one I've been waiting for for a while. I've been stalking their blog and progress for months.

My favorite site at the moment is Solia Online. I love all the people on there and feel very included in the community.

As for sites I don't like, errrrr I don't really hate any sites. I'm not too happy with Gaia or Chlorea at the moment though. Most of the other sites I've seen I really don't have an opinion on seeing as I haven't spent a lot of time on them.

@Espy Is Lilifactory the really cutesy, girly one?

Define "girly".

Errrrr feminine as defined by the societal gender constructs of the United States of America.

EDIT: Googled it and yep, it's the one I'm thinking of. It's too cutesy for me.

Totally stalked. xD!

I like Solia right now and don't really hate any other's. Burned out on Gaia after...ffff....a looong time.
E and Roli are okay, but just don't hook me like Solia. c:

Lol don't even get me started on Chloria and Solia. e__e
Solia has an okay community, but its kind of sad how...willingly ignorant some members are.
But that's getting into something else entirely~

I've never heard of Lilifactory before....and I sometimes stalk Malthea as well. xD

I've recently quit Solia and haven't been looking for new sites since I still have Gaia, Tris, and Ernya... although I'm not on Ernya much anymore. I also occasionally post on Crysandrea.

@Xia I will agree that some of Solia's members are rather ignorant but I believe that's a vast minority. Most people I've met on Solia are likeable and friendly. Including all of the staff.

Are you the Xia from Chloria that was a moderator?

@Darkmoonslayer I'm pretty sure I remember you from Solia though I'm not sure I really ever talked to you.

If you have the same name there I have seen you around but I don't think we ever really talked.

Agreed with Arix. c:

Ernya is pretty but I'm only there to look at the melloluvr arts since I stalk her on DA.

I'm on hiatus from Gaia.

@DMS Yep. Same name. I have the same name on Chloria as well.

@Blain I'm on semi-hiatus from Gaia. I still go on the ED when I get bored and want to debate.

Arix: I sometimes visit my home: the AF. xD

The staff? Likeable? Ahaaaahahaha.
I don't really blame you for thinking that way, though.
But....when I say "ignorant" I don't think you quite know what I mean. xD Which is okay.

Yes, the one and only~
And using that "was", you can probably guess why I'm not a big fan of Cholera Chlorine Chlamydia Chloria right now. xD

Also two others I know of are Elidiun and Wishtides, and Jinksu.
Not a big fan of Jinksu and their 46576765765 billion admins...lolwhutwhydoyouneedthatmany? since there's someone working on that site who I am not fond of. :C

Solia is alright but i personally like roliana better, its got better costume designs imo

@Xia You can be ignorant of different things and in different ways. Yeah, we're probably not talking about the same type of ignorance.

I'm honestly friends with most of the staff including the Admins. I talk to them all quite a bit. I honestly don't understand why people don't like them. If you can explain in an objective way why you or others don't like the site I am willing to here it. I just really don't like when people call the admins or staff assholes with no explanations which I have seen. Just if we do begin to discuss something of the sort know that I will listen but if I feel like there's something I can explain I will say it.

O I'm not that happy with Chloria right now. I donated to it in the beginning. I'm rather regretting it at the moment. I've kind of given up on it. I'm on Trisphee because I found a lot of the friends I made on Chloria are here. Plus there's some very kick ass items here.

Roli bugs me because they have a whole thread used to bitch about other avatar sites. I personally don't like when staff enforces and participates in bad mouthing other sites and/or their staff.

Roli's avatars aren't that bad though and I'll be honest and say I never joined it so I don't know the community of it.

They banned me for making a suggestion regarding the "dolly" items in the Suggestions and Feedback forum. :/ And of course, after banning me they took me up on my advice. Their little note when I go to log in and see I'm banned? "Bye Xia".

Regarding Roliana, their avatars are tilted-looking and have that stupid random-hand-holding-nothing pose STILL. >__>

@Xia There has to be more of a reason than that. Many, many people make suggestions and aren't banned. I can't see you being the acceptation to that. How many warnings did you have? Were you a part of that whole Haley fiasco?

Haley fiasco?

From what I know since some of it occurred before I joined, Haley got banned and some of her friends started a shit storm. I think they got banned too for that. Eventually Haley actually was allowed back. Haley then tried to start shit with Iscariot in a thread in TS while also discussing her former ban which is against the ToS. She was then perma banned.

Huh, I knew about her getting banned, and coming back but I didn't hear that she was banned again.

They banned me because they didn't like me. :/ They used any excuse they could, until finally they banned me, just because. And whether there was a real reason or not how they handled it was highly inappropriate~

They didn't like me because I openly gave not-so-nice feedback sometimes, and didn't kiss their ass.

And no, I wasn't, but when I made a comment on my mule regarding text font, making a joke, I got banned on that account while the other person only had a two-week ban.

They make up rumors about other site staff as well. They also ban other site staff for no other reason than to "make an example" of them.

You'd be surprised what the staff, especially Iscariot, does.

Haley was given far too many chances, IMO. Also the amount of warnings one gets to be banned varies from person to person.

@Xia Now that would make more sense. Finding an excuse to ban you because they didn't like you. That happens on all sites though. If the admins don't like you there's no point to trying to stay on a site. Yes, it's not highly mature or professional but it happens online and in the real world as well. It's something you have to learn to cope with and adapt to.

Do you mean no-so-nice as in not agreeing with them or saying it in a not so nice manner? They have really buckled down recently on how things are said when giving support or feedback.

I have heard rumors but there hasn't been any big drama on the site since I joined other than what happened with Haley. I agree she had too many chances.

About the amount of warnings per ban and how that differs per person, I do know that occurs and I don't agree with it. They have that list in the rules about how many warns to a ban and yet they don't use it. Maybe I should talk to Iscariot about that. He was asking me recently if there was anything him or the staff was doing wrong.

What rumors have they made up about other staff? I do honestly want to know. If you want to know I've been on Solia since Nov 09 but I have heard and read some of the older stuff. Like I know what happened to Hannah. When I joined the staff was only Iscariot, Dekkard, Turgon, Gargy, Yanagi, Stitches, Rasen and Starry.

Something happened to Hannah?! o Ao

Regardless, you'd think they're better than that, but I shouldn't be surprised. :/ They didn't like me because I didn't always agree with them, which is fucking STUPID. I don't care if the whole "finding an excuse to ban someone" thing happens, it doesn't mean it's just a-okay.

And of course they buckle down because if they don't they'll ban/lose their paycheck. Would you smack a tasty sandwich right out of your mouth? Probably not.

They made up a rumor that they had reason to sue Ernya but couldn't because she lives in France. UHM, SHE LIVES IN WASHINGTON. Idiots.
And looool 90% of their staff suck. Xanurel and Stitches shouldn't even be there, they just happen to be the lead asskissers.

@DMS She left the site. Like ages ago. Before I joined.

@Xia You'd think everyone would be above that but they're not. All sites do it. All jobs do it. If your boss dislikes you you won't have a job for long. It's a common occurrence online and off.

I don't think that would be the only reason they wouldn't like you. There are people who disagree with them all the time and they aren't banned. I said to Dekkard's face that I thought he was wrong on something.

Of course it doesn't mean it's okay. You just can't expect more of them then you can of everyone else in their position. You don't think if the heads of this site didn't like me they wouldn't find a way to ban me?

I don't understand the reasoning behind buckling down on how feedback and support is given relates to banning or donating.

I have no idea about that because I wasn't there for the Ernya thing.

I actually partially agree about Xan. I was kinda worried when she was promoted. All the staff do seem to be doing a good job though. I've never heard/seen anything bad about Stitches. I did see something bad involving Gargy though. He spoke badly against Rasen and that upset me. Staff shouldn't be talking bad about other staff.

The staff likes to play favorites, in both ways. :/

And there's a big difference between losing a job because the boss doesn't like you, and being banned from a site because the admin don't like you. I can tell you right now the head admin on Ernya HATES me (used to be part of the staff too), at least I think, and about a year ago we got into a huge fight, but she never banned me.

Well, you don't want to scare your users away by acting like a douche just because someone happens to not like something on the site? So obviously you'd try to improve.

I think site admins and staff need to be above petty squabbles and not let personal feeling get in the way of efficient and fair site management.

^ I AGREE WITH THIS.

Its highly unprofessional.

With Solia I feel like the site is being run by people with the emotional stability of a 12 year old given more power than they can handle.

I mean the site looks great, the admins can be nice people, but the way they run the site is just... immature. That's pretty much why I left. -shrug-

I agree with you there. - n-

@Xia Again, I think most places do that. Though staff on Solia have been demoted due to unfairness. I know of one mod who knowingly looked the other way and was demoted.

I don't see much of a difference. It all has to do with peoples feelings and effecting judgements due to them. Yes, it would be wonderful if that never happened but it does in all walks of life.

I was talking about how they've become more strict about how users act in the support and feedback forums.

@DMS It would be nice but it rarely happens. Plus, even if the admins dislike you I still believe they have reasons for bannings. The only thing is they might ban you for less but if you do nothing I don't think you'll be banned.

I just really don't see immaturity from the staff. I also don't see how the way the run the site is immature. When I think of an admin acting immature I think of Alex with Chloria not how Solia is run. Maybe it's just me but I understand the admins reasoning on the decisions they make.

Still doesn't make it right, and thus I refuse to just see it as "oh, whatever, I got banned for a totally unfair reason, shit happens". 8\

It's whatever, Solia means pretty much nothing to me now, anyways.
Been there for 2-3 years, and now I'm done~

@Xia I never said it was right, I said it happens and you can't bitch about it happening on one site and not another.

I'll also be honest and say that looking back through your posts on Solia you did a few things that violated the ToS and should have gotten you warned. I saw some spamming, though not a great deal though still some, and an instance of not leaving a thread after you were asked to leave. Both of those things should get you a warning on Solia and I only looked back maybe 7 or 8 pages. You may not like this but I see reasons for you to be warned if not banned. Especially if those were not the first instances of such things.

Its never happened to me on any other site besides Solia. So yes, I can bitch about it all I want so long as it doesn't go overboard, thanks. You ask me questions and I'm answering them, also.

That's great, and you know what? I was banned anyways. They could have handled it more professionally. And plus, does that make it fair that when, after I was banned, I was obeying the rules and STILL got banned? No, it doesn't.

Also, I find it amusing/flattering that you're taking the time just to read through a bunch of my old posts just to prove....whatever point you're trying to prove. Or to defend Solian admin....either way lol.

I'm going to change the subject now, not because "ooooh I really did have a reason to be banned" because you're right, I did, but others were also banned unjustly as well. e__e

On another note, I'm glad we can all agree Alex is a shitty admin. Yeah, can't say I really appreciate being demodded without any reason or warning, and we know his little "new start" is just a cover-up.