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nipple ring 02-01-2011 05:14 PM

older cartoons
 
      • they're much darker than all the cartoons that
        are on today. like courage the cowardly dog
        that show is creepy as i don't know what
        but i still love watching it . xD

        i could go on and on about how all the stations i used to watch
        suck now but seriously what happened D:

        CS what's with all the live action shows
        on cartoon stations? and why has cartoon network
        changed so much?

        it just seemed out of the blue they took out all the good.
        ; m ;

Vox 02-01-2011 06:27 PM

Live action shows on CN and live action shows, no music on MTV and VH-1...it's cable's way of telling us they suck and we should go play outside or read a book. :-(

I'm pretty sure it's the bottom line. That, and perhaps the more demanding audience has strayed to the internet, so they get their fix there, and the TV has to cater to what's left.

Skykittykat 02-01-2011 06:52 PM

I agree with Vox, all the people intelligent enough to care have left for the internet where they can get whatever they want with just a few minutes of streaming.

But what I want to know, what is with all the freaking reality shows?! So many dancing with the stars, biggest loser, american idol, john and kate plus eight, bridezilla knock offs have crowded the channels. They're not even amusing. They're just plain boring. I don't watch T.V. To watch someone else's life. I watch to get away from mine. Fah. And they're all my mom seems to want to watch.

Vox 02-01-2011 07:16 PM

Reality shows are at least partially scripted, so I hear -- but they're cheap to produce and you don't have to pay Writer's Guild fees.

As for why they have soooo many fans - idk either! Whatever happened to being interested in neighborhood gossip??

nipple ring 02-01-2011 08:07 PM

      • i don't even think i watch tv on the internet. i'm on forums half the time. the only thing i still watch is maybe 1000 ways to die because it's so amusing but i hardy stray from the internet or my PS3. D:

        ugh i hate most reality shows. is cake boss considered one? i love seeing the cakes and all the food competitions it's so cool. a pirate ship made out of sugar, too cool!

Taradiddle 02-02-2011 12:59 AM

Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Cartoon Network. Flapjack (although now ended) and Adventure Time! give me some hope for the channel (and they have their weird ass moments too, Flapjack mostly though.), but the live action stuff has got to stop.

Poggio 02-02-2011 03:57 AM

I don't have the attention span to care about bickering house wives or people from NJ.
I do miss old cartoons I grew up on bus bunny who was a crossdressing violent fool, along with the rest of the loony toons.

Airina 02-02-2011 04:39 AM

*pokes thread*

Reyoki 02-02-2011 12:30 PM

There was a lot more you could get away with as far as violence and dark/crude humor went on TV in the early-mid 90s than there is now. Plus, there's a lot of parents that don't want their offspring cartoons because "it doesn't accurately portray reality" and whatnot.

My take on that is... that's kind of the whole point of cartoons; they're an escape from reality. It's true that you sometimes get sick, dememted minds like mine as a result of way too much time watching cartoons like Ren & Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life, but an hour or two of today's cartoons isn't going to kill anybody.

I agree with the whole CN fiasco. They should start calling it "Canadian Reality Network" or something like that since a lot of the shows that are coming onto the channel now are made in Canada. (I'm not bashing Canada, btw, I'm simply stating a fact) The whole network is getting more and more abstract, too. It's not specific- or even identifiable -characters in their network promotions anymore for the most part, it's big blocks of color and whatnot. I thought I was watching a clothing commercial or something the other day when I saw one of their "You're watching Cartoon Network!" commercial bits!

nipple ring 02-02-2011 06:14 PM

      • tara:
        i really enjoyed flapjack. ; n ;
        why did they even end it? i don't even know why it started

        pog:
        oh yes loony tunes <3 those were the days
        and the chuck jones hour they had in early 2000. it was a nice ride we had
        though before cartoon network changed

        airi:
        o u o

        rey:
        i truly despise parents like that. if you didn't want your child to
        watch it then why not change the station or tell them to go outside.
        lol canadian reality network. yea! i really like teh bumps with the cartoons
        walking around that city, that was really cool i think that was in '03.
        and cartoon cartoon <3 or cartoon fridays. everything just kept changing
        and i don't have much hope for the future. but maybe another station
        will come along.

Addy 02-02-2011 07:16 PM

I miss stuff like Angry Beavers and Ren and Stimpy, mostly. o: Those are on Netflix now so someday soon I need to have a cartoony marathon.

Taradiddle 02-02-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nipple ring (Post 446779)
tara:
i really enjoyed flapjack. ; n ;
why did they even end it? i don't even know why it started

I actually don't know why the show was cancelled, but I have noticed Thurop Van Orman (who created the show) has mentioned a few times that he has a hard time being settle, so it may have been that he ended the show to work on a new project. He seems to be working on something called Black Forest, but I have no idea if it's to be a show or what. (He has a dA account, by the way.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reyoki (Post 445772)
There was a lot more you could get away with as far as violence and dark/crude humor went on TV in the early-mid 90s than there is now. Plus, there's a lot of parents that don't want their offspring cartoons because "it doesn't accurately portray reality" and whatnot.

CHILDREN do not accurately portray reality. You could give them nothing but an empty room and a stick, and it won't be an hour before that stick is a sword, a person, a wand, a tree, a building, a bridge, broken in two to become nun chucks and later, a set of antlers, and at some point, drum sticks. If childhood resembled the reality of adulthood, they would be carried off to mental hospitals for believing in monsters in the closet and the explanation for having presents under the tree is, absolutely, because of a man with flying reindeer.

Poggio 02-03-2011 03:37 AM

XD I like how cartoon network cancel shows but magically they still air. My favorite example of this of course is ed edd'n eddy. I was a huge fan and they stop production of it for a long time. Then suddenly it has a small cult fandom they make new episodes then stop, then wayyy after suddenly a tv movie pops up. The same thing happened with Futurama. Eventually Futurama after 4 or more movies is now making new episodes.

I believe with all my heart that as long as the fans are loyal the CN executives will discover that "Live action cartoons" don't work on that network. Unfortunately its not just CN that is having problems with its cartoons. I don't know about any one else but 4 hours of spongebob is not amusing. Neither is Tuff Puppy or Back in the barnyard. I throughly miss Danny Phantom and Avatar the last Airbender.

Although admittedly I find the guy in destroy build destroy very cute.

Aiko 02-03-2011 09:29 AM

Y'know that's why I don't watch TV anymore :P
No idea what happened..... but it sure wasn't good Dx

Uke 02-03-2011 12:09 PM

I agree with that first statement, Vox. C:

There are some pretty dark cartoons on today if you look. Also quite a few sexual undertones... its just the ones on stations meant for little LITTLE kids and the ones that are on really early that are cutesy and about singing.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 12:10 PM

Welcome to the world of reruns. The funny thing about the Ed, Edd 'n Eddy movie was that it was available in other countries quite sooner than it was in the US. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's a Canadian show, so it wouldn't surprise me if they got it first, but AUSTRALIA aired it before it was on in the US. I have to wonder if it's because of the "sexton" joke. Pffft. Like kids would get it anyways, and if they did, well then, it's too late to really be hiding them from these things now, isn't it?

I saw one episode of T.U.F.F. Puppy and I use the term "saw" loosely. I mean, it was on the TV, but I think I was focusing on a jigsaw puzzle instead. The only thing that made me look up was suddenly hearing an awkward moment where the main character kissed a male villain who was disguised as a girl. That was a little surprising, but once it was over, I went back to the puzzle. And it's a little disappointing, I mean, it was created by BUTCH HARTMAN. He created Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom. (Danny Phantom was my pressed my limit of teen-y though.) Oh well, like I said, I barely watched one episode, so I can't judge it too harshly.

Network Executives, it seems to me, only understand ratings. If there's a significantly higher amount of viewers watching the cartoons instead of the live action shows, they should go away eventually. Not instantly, but eventually. I think Cartoon Network is slowly coming back though. Adventure Time!, Mad TV (as long as it stays as the last show before Adult Swim, I think it will do fairly well), Sym-Bionic Titan maybe. It's a process.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uke (Post 449039)
I agree with that first statement, Vox. C:

There are some pretty dark cartoons on today if you look. Also quite a few sexual undertones... its just the ones on stations meant for little LITTLE kids and the ones that are on really early that are cutesy and about singing.

Yeah, the word "sexy" is being used a bit more now, I think. And how has The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy not been talked about? That show was pretty dark, I think near the beginning of one of the movies, a squirrel gets flattened, then gives up the thumbs up sign to show he's still alive.

nipple ring 02-03-2011 12:29 PM

      • tara:
        true billy and mandy was a very crud show but it was not where near
        as dark as courage the cowardly dog. And T.U.F.F puppy isn't that bad but h i wouldn't recommend it. I can't stand MAD TV it's not funny to me and kind of a waste of space. but regular show is really pushing it. XD "What the F we have to stop this S" It's so close to cussing it's hilarious and they still air it. Sym-Bionic s a good show, it didn't think it was going to be but after watching season one of it it's great <3 OH! and you can't forget young justice! i'm like in love with that show (aqualad and superboy anyway) I was so geeked when i saw the promo's for it and wasn't disappointed at all.

        ]uke:
        i really hate those shows! little kids aren't even up that early to be watching them anyway and they cute into my time. it's really weird how they do it though. they show regular then cutesy then regular like six hours later. or sometimes in in prime time.

        pog:
        they are making a new season of ALA <3 this time with a female
        water bending avatar and the leeks look damn good like the first season.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 01:06 PM

Courage the Cowardly Dog was epic in comedy, art, story, charcter, and weirdness. I will never find a cartoon that could ever hope to top it. Mad TV is bad, but I have a bad sense of humor sometimes, so it appeals to me in that sense. Or maybe it is just pure terrible and I managed to see the episodes that made me laugh, who knows. I don't have TV service, so a lot of these new shows I've barely seen, the only exception being Adventure Time!. (I found a website that shows them. :P Hey, I've bought two Adventure Time! t-shirts, so it's not like I'm robbing from them COMPLETELY.) Regular Show I never got into, it seemed kinda dull to me. I've never seen Young Justice.

Cutesy shows though. Definitely annoying. Educational for the little ones, maybe, but annoying and grating to the core.

Echo-chan713 02-03-2011 01:23 PM

The only time I watch something on the internet is anime cause it's cheaper for me to watch it on the computer than to buy the DVD set and I can only watch it once and then I feel like it's a waste of money.

As well as the anime videos on the internet last longer on the website than trying to find it in B&N, Borders, eBay, Amazon, or even try to find it on Salesmanb2b.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 01:40 PM

I don't watch anime much. I like Ghost in the Shell and FLCL, but even then, I only watch it if it's already on. I don't think anime's bad, just that I always get recommended bad animes. So help me if I have to sit through one more shriek-y girl character whose base personality is "kawaii".

Echo-chan713 02-03-2011 01:43 PM

there are some animes where the girls aren't the overly developed babies. There are some (not many) where they're like tomboys in a way, strong confident and as well as looking natural (not under the knife)

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 01:52 PM

I would ask for some titles, but I already fill my life with too much computer time, I don't need more time wasters. XD

nipple ring 02-03-2011 01:52 PM

      • tara:
        i don't think anyone will ever try to top that show xD they couldn't get away with all of it even if they tried. and trying to find a network that would show it would be impossible. Reg. Show seemed dumb to me until my friend went on and on about it soi watched to to shut him up and it's really weird. like off the wall weird and you never see most of the dumb stuff coming. YJ is awesome * 0 * it's a marvel cartoon so that alone is going to make it good since most cartoon movies.shows released by comic producing are cool. it's not mindless like some cartoons.

        i don't even like kids watch them T: i've never seen my young cousins take a interest in them. mostly they watch what i watch xD

        echo:
        i'm not a big anime watcher. i really prefer reading manga and going to buy it. it's just not the same if you watch it or read it online. if i really love a series i'll buy it and re-read it cause it's just that good xD i try my best to give money back to the artist (is a artist) is i'm that in love with it. i don't really read/watch that section of anime. i read seien for the for part. the super dark twisted physiological manga xD those are always the best and have wonderful character depth.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 02:04 PM

Well, maybe I'll try watching Regular Show again some time. First impressions aren't always accurate, y'know? Especially the very first episodes, which is what I saw. I'll check out Young Justice too. Y'know, I'm not a big super hero fan, but every once in a while I'll find a series that catches my eye.

Some years ago, I was babysitting for a neighbor and their kids were watching this one show that was so repetitive I wanted to bust the TV. At one point the characters were just singing "Brushing your teeth is fun!" for about thirty seconds straight. No other lines. Just that. In unison. For half a minute. I felt like I was being brain washed or something.

nipple ring 02-03-2011 02:12 PM

      • i still haven seen the first episode xD
        but if you like adventure time you'll like this one too.
        i think it's the same artist too. i love super hero shows.
        i don't know why xD maybe because i love comics so much

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 02:20 PM

Haha, Adventure Time! is created by Pendleton Ward, while Regular Show is created by JG Quintel. JG Quintel did work on The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, whose creator Thurop Van Orman is friends with both Pendleton Ward and JG Quintel, so similarities are bound to happen.

I'm starting to think: Become friends with Thurop Van Orman, get your own show. XD

Yeah, I love comics too, but Batman is the only super hero I can really get into, and even then he's technically not a super hero. Which is weird, because when I THINK about super heroes, I think they're awesome. But then seeing them... I dunno. I dunno what happens.

On the other hand, I did like Teen Titans, and it's not just because I'm a fan of Tara Strong and Hynden Walch. XD I liked the struggles the characters had both internally and externally.

nipple ring 02-03-2011 03:13 PM

      • really xD cause they are so similar!
        i might keep that in mind when i'm looking for a job
        out of college

        lol that doesn't make any scene 8D i have my highs and lows with
        them. one minute i'm in love with them then the next id on't really
        care.

        me too <3 i don't think i saw the ending or if it had one. they just stopped airing it. then you'll like YJ it has most of them in there
        but it's still early so i don't know who's going to make a appearance. but robins in there and he isn't the leader xD black aqualad is! AL is probably
        the most awesome thing thing to grace a squad of young super heroes. he's strong and his powers are electricity and biomorphichydro weapons. xD
        but the suck thing is, it doesn't repeat through the week.
        just on fridays so if you miss it ya got to search for it.

Echo-chan713 02-03-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taradiddle (Post 449219)
I would ask for some titles, but I already fill my life with too much computer time, I don't need more time wasters. XD

I don't have cable nor ever cause for me. My mom's going to get me the Netflix channel/ or the netflix converter box than cable

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 03:29 PM

We rent movies from Netflix, but I usually watch stuff from them online. Especially MST3K. *rubs belly* Mmmm... MST3K....

Yeah, I'm not sure how Teen Titans ended either, but I can certainly look it up.

Echo-chan713 02-03-2011 03:32 PM

They ended Teen Titans with a full Length movie of them in Tokyo. and FINALLY Starfire and Robin kissed..in the rain so it reminded me of t.A.T.u "All the Things She Said"

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 03:58 PM

>:[ I saw that movie, how did I not remember it???

t.A.T.u. is alright, but now I'll have to kill you because that song has popped into my head and I can't get it out. *stares at you to death*

nipple ring 02-03-2011 04:02 PM

      • that was the ending of teen titans?
        wow i just thought that was a movie D;

Echo-chan713 02-03-2011 04:03 PM

*stared back cause you didn't remember the movie* I:[

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 04:12 PM

*stares extra hard and gets a headache* O'_'O

krankhaus 02-03-2011 04:18 PM

Oh lord, Courage...

The episode that scared me the most was that one with the Egyptian curses and the guy that goes "return the slab or suffer my wrath!" or something.

;___;

I shat brix.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 04:20 PM

There should be a thread for favorite cartoon openings and theme songs. I'm going to make one in the Technology 101 TV sub-forum.

"Return the slab or suffer my curse!!!" Have you seen the one with the little girl playing the violin? THAT will make you shit bricks.

krankhaus 02-03-2011 04:39 PM

No I haven't seen the violin one. :O

I dunno if I want to... if it's worse than the slab curse episode, I don't know... x__x That one really disturbed me, haha.

Taradiddle 02-03-2011 04:46 PM

Well too bad, 'cause I'm giving you the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzRHbWwdow It's just a clip though, it's not the whole episode.

nipple ring 02-03-2011 04:56 PM

      • omg i know D:
        that was so creepy! but the one with the garble doctor
        and the vacuum clean that was was always the creepiest to me
        because of that chase scene at the end.


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