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Pinkie 03-28-2012 01:06 AM

Pinkie needs advice...badly (Mature)
 
Okay...so Pinkies not usually one to go about things this way but...I really need some advice from people as I have no idea what to do or what to think about everything as of late...Let me explain.

My bf and I live together and have been for almost a year now. Everything was great and going awesome until I lost my job. I am still searching for one but thats not the issue. Lately everything with him has been...problems. I mean I got a check that was 900$...that went to food and rent because I dont have a job so I would feel bad spending it on my self.

During the two weeks I had my money his paychecks (paid every fri) went into the bank in the savings so we knew nothing would go wrong. Now its 4 weeks and all my money is completely gone as well as the food I had bought.

Because the fridge is empty I asked him if he could buy some food so we could I dont know maybe eat for the next week and he looked at me and said point blank "I dont want to...we dont have the money"....Okay...for one you get 600$ checks thats at least 1200$ in the bank. I brought this to his attention and he said "Ha...no we have like 400$".....um...WTF!!

Where the hell did all that money go! So I asked him and he told me "Your not cheap..." Okay...what the hell am I to think or do about this? For one I know that since my money ran out that he has treated me one night to dinner....I know that didnt cost 1200$!!!!

Am I really not worth even the consideration of food in my stomach? I really dont know what to think or do about this. I mean I love him to death but lately things have been stressfull and completely weird...hes not himself and out money keeps dwindling. I dont want to think the bad first off but...with everything what else do I think of? Please...please give me some advice I really need it.

*Zane 03-28-2012 01:41 AM

what the hell? i dont know the guy but that does seem off, could he be lashing out because of the situation and not knowing how to take it?
or he wasnt watching his money? =(

it seems like he really needs to get his act straight, this is not a way to treat someone you care about.

either way, you need to sit him down and try to get a calm,informative conversation out of him, get answers.

if worse comes to worse,try to start controlling the money instead of letting him do it, before resorting to drastic measures.

Pinkie 03-28-2012 01:46 AM

Well the thing is its his bank account. We dont have one together. Also nothing shows that hes spending the money so this tells me that he dose indeed still have it but dosent want to use it. Either that or hes spending it some where else on some one else.

*Zane 03-28-2012 01:47 AM

no i wouldnt think that hes spending it on others, maybe hes got a debt hes embarassed or ashamed of?

Fauxreal 03-28-2012 01:49 AM

First of all you are worth more than food my darling, you are worth being treated like a princess.

Second, When my fiance and I fight... it's always about money.

Third, do you share a bank account? If so - you need to keep watch on those statements. Unless he's pulling out cash from the atm or something, it should have an itemized list of what is being spent. If he spent things, you'll be able to have proof. Not only that, all banks have rules as to how much money you keep in your account. Example : 'm with the evil known as Chase and if I don't have 1500 in the account at all times, or make direct deposits over 1000 a month - they charge me $12.00 a month. So on top of having no money - they take $12 bucks.

What are your options really? Do you want to drop him like a hot potato? Do you think this is going to happen when you do finally find a job? If he isn't going to share what he has now... is he really going to share when you have your own really money again?

It's in bad times when you truly see people. He's not showing you a very good side of himself. But then again, maybe he's just frustrated?

Also - do you think this is really about money? Is there something else you or he is doing that is causing issues. Even the small stuff, when you live together, can add up.

Pinkie 03-28-2012 01:50 AM

We have been together now for three years...I know everything that goes on....if he had a debt I would know about it.

Faux: I just really dont know. We dont share an account so I cant really keep track of it but at the same time he has nothing to show for where the money is. But the fact that he told me no to food when thats the only thing I ask for tells me there is something going on that I dont know about. I mean I want to think positve on this...but...really? All I asked for was 20 for sandwich stuff and it was to much. I talked with my mother tonight and she asked me if I wanted to move back home...I broke down crying and couldnt answer her. I mean...I love him and I want to give him the hope that not many other women would when it comes to this but I just really dont know what to do. I really want to know where the money is going or if he still has it but I have no way of finding out.

Tiva 03-28-2012 01:51 AM

Is he spending a lot of time online or out of the house? Maybe online card games?
OR
Is he getting jumpy about his phone or suddenly has a lot more work or long periods of time that isn't at work that he doesn't contact you when he normally does?

*Zane 03-28-2012 01:54 AM

hmm, i see, i do agree with alot of what Faux is saying.
and i do think it is weird his moneys poofed, but thats his word that its poofed, he could still have it and could just be being a douche.

i still think the only way to really solve this and help yourself as well as your health (mental and physical) is to sit him down and talk and get answers you need.or drop his ass soon as you get on your feet.

Fauxreal 03-28-2012 01:56 AM

Also is he protective of his phone, computer screen... Do you really think it could be someone else?

Pinkie 03-28-2012 01:59 AM

Tiva: He has one game that he plays but thats a one time buy. Also he dose work long hours but hes an electristion so its to be expected. Also I can pick his phone up right infront of his face and go through it and he wont say or do a thing...So things really stump me as to where the money is.

Zan: I have tried. I did today. We sat down and I was calm and nice and I said "Can we talk hun I would like to ask some things" He agreed and we sat and chatted...that nice chat turned into yelling and screaming on both sides not only over money but every little thing. I mean...im so stressed I can run my fingers through my hair and remove chunks of it.

Faux: Like I said to Tiva no I can go through his phone any time I please as well as his computer. He dosent hide anything...

Rosekitten 03-28-2012 02:03 AM

~huggles the Pinky~ i'd post here but yeah messenger is faster -3-

Pinkie 03-28-2012 02:06 AM

Rosie: =huggles= that it is...plus then I can say something that wouldnt be good on here lol

Rosekitten 03-28-2012 02:11 AM

>.> true that.. otherwise youd have to put a m rating on your advise thread ^^;

Pinkie 03-28-2012 02:16 AM

Yeah I know right even though I should do that because I am sure it will get to that point sometime knowing me...

Fauxreal 03-28-2012 02:20 AM

Honestly, Maybe he thinks he's supporting you and that's not what he signed up for.

Do you think you could calmly ask him if he wants you to move back out?

This is the future. If you were planing to make a life with him, this is how he is going to act. You can't change him, HE has to want to change.

If I could spare you the feelings of being hurt I'd do it in a second. But I know you already know there is no easy answer to this.

Pinkie 03-28-2012 02:24 AM

You know what...I may just ask him that and see what he says. But the one thing that gets to me is I lost my job by quiting but before I quit I called him and asked what he thought on it and he said "If you need to do it...I make enough to support the both of us" Then a week later he told me "You dont have to work if you dont wnat to" Thats why I dont understand

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I hope the advice everyone gave you works out well
for you hun. I know how much hell money arguements
can be in a relationship ~_~ Got in too many with
the idiot I married. I honestly hope things get
better for you two. Money problems are the worse
thing for any relationship. *hugs*




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momo the peachy 03-28-2012 03:25 AM

I read the first post. It does seem strange. Where could all that money go? Maybe on someone else. If it has gone on someone else, I would be looking into these things:

A: Is that someone else another woman?

Because if he's spending the money on some b$%^& when you spend your money on food and rent, then you soooo need to get to the bottom of that, and find out who the other woman is. Usually it's someone you know. But, I hope everything is okay and it's not that.

Fauxreal 03-28-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pink pantzer (Post 1109971)
You know what...I may just ask him that and see what he says. But the one thing that gets to me is I lost my job by quiting but before I quit I called him and asked what he thought on it and he said "If you need to do it...I make enough to support the both of us" Then a week later he told me "You dont have to work if you dont wnat to" Thats why I dont understand

Maybe he just didn't know what it really entailed and changed his mind.

Tiva 03-29-2012 09:50 PM

I can't state much then, because the obvious thing to think doesn't fit and maybe it is more of what Faux stated.
Also do you guys use credit cards? Maybe he payed off his card.

Lucid: 03-30-2012 11:17 AM

I know you don't share a bank account, but there are ways to still keep track of all of his and your money. I personally like to use mint.com. It syncs with your bank account(s) to keep a list of all your purchases, it's got budgeting tools that yell at you if you go over budget, and it tells you what categories of purchases you spend all your money on. You can hook up both your bank accounts to one profile so you both can be completely open with each other about where your money is going. If you don't want to use the site, a similar option is just to ask to look at his bank statement - but if you share a mint account you can both check on the money at any time you want. If you're essentially sharing money anyway, he should agree to let you see where he's spending it unless there's something sketchy going on that he doesn't want you to know about. And if it's just a matter of not watching where all the money is going, knowing that's the issue will help you both prioritize your budget in the future.

Also if you have $400 you have enough to go buy a week's worth of food... =/

nyreen 04-14-2012 05:54 PM



You need to sit down with him and try to have a mature, calm conversation about where all that money went to. If you know for a fact what he pays for and how much money should be left over then... I mean where did the rest go? That's just odd. Unless he has a terrible spending habit and you're not aware of it. So just... sit down with him and talk to him. I wish you luck sweetie!


Ishu 04-15-2012 01:42 AM

I divorced my first husband because of this. There were MANY other issues going on at the time but when I found out he was unwilling to pay for a surgery that I NEED because he said it would "put him in debt for 10 years" ($6000 surgery, btw; he made up to $4000 a month...) and that he didn't want to pay for it, it was an emotional blow.

Over time I began to realize that more and more of our money was going missing and he started stressing about cash. I, eventually, found out he was cheating on me and sending money somewhere else. Naturally, I was furious. I never called him out on it and I really wish I did- but because he's part capricorn he would have just lied his way in circles and I didn't have the emotional capacity or patience to go through that. So, inevitably, we got a divorce. We are no longer on speaking terms as he is a total dickweed.

Anywho, you could start asking for receipts so you can balance your checkbook and figure out how to handle the money better. If more money is missing and there are no receipts- one of two things is going on:

1. He's cheating on you or simply spending the money on something he shouldn't.
2. There could be a ring involved.

honestly, he's probably throwing the money away on something, or someone, else, considering the tone I'm getting from his text. I think you need to seriously reevaluate the relationship and start planning on where you're going to live.

The Krazy Kat Lady 04-15-2012 12:08 PM

~Kat HUGGLES Pinkie~

Aww, hon, money is the biggest cause of relationship problems and divorce. It just plain SUCKS.
I am STILL having issues with my husband-creature (he refuses to pay ANY household bills, even though he's been back to work for over 6 months now- and, NO, I can't divorce him).

There most likely isn't another woman... but rather a hobby on which he's spending what he sees as "his" money. My male buys DVDs every single week. We have three 6-foot tall bookshelves stuffed with DVDs, and another bookshelf in his bedroom that's full of them.

He's obviously making money, but when I try to get him to take over ONE SINGLE household bill (the electric bill, for example), he starts barking at me about how he doesn't have ANY money, and then the excuses start overflowing from his mouth.

The point is- he never learned how to budget; he went from living with his folks to living with his first fiancée when he was 19, to sharing a house with 5 other guys who just gave him an itemized bill each month with a total amount he owed listed at the bottom... to living with me.
I've paid ALL the bills since before we were even married.

Some people are good with handling money, others are not. It's a sad fact of life we have to deal with.

If he's as open as you say he is, perhaps you can persuade him to open a joint checking account into which he can deposit every other paycheck and you can deposit whatever money you have come in. You can use that one bank account strictly for household stuff like rent, utilities, and food. That way you both get peace of mind because he won't have to worry about the action of paying bills, and you won't have to worry about the money being there.

When he said he could support the both of you, he probably had no idea how hard that is to do on one income- especially with food and gas prices skyrocketing. AND, he probably has no clue how to budget for a household.

If he won't agree to a joint checking account with just half his income, you then have all rights to question him as to where his money is going. If he gets defensive and starts raising his voice at you... it's time for you to move on. People like that simply do NOT change. If I had known my husband was going to be a mooch for the rest of our lives, I never would have married him. I make enough on Disability to live on my own and pay someone to come in 2 or 3 times a week to do housework and prepare meals for me that I can just heat in the microwave (I'm not allowed to cook because of my condition). I would have a housekeeper right now if Eric would just pay his freaking share of the bills!

Pinkie, you DO NOT want to end up in a permanent relationship with someone who is incapable of handling money responsibly. I know you love him- and maybe he will change on his own, but not if you are there enabling him to piss away his income. And for him to turn you down for money for FOOD- that's a deal breaker right there.

I would suggest not breaking up with him, but also not living with him anymore - if he isn't willing to do a joint bank account. If he wants to be an immature little boy and not have responsibilities, let him do it on his own. Make arrangements to move back in with your Mom just until you find a new job and save up enough to get your own place. (Speaking from experience: an adult child living with the parent(s) is very stressful because they say they see you as an independent adult, but without realizing it, they treat you like you're still in high school).

Annnnd- there is always the possibility that there may be another woman. If that's the case, pack all your stuff as quickly as possible and move out while he's at work. If it's something you two can get through/past, you can work on your relationship from different residences. I REALLY hope that's not the case, though.

Love & Hugs!!


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