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Neil Gaiman
So, I recently picked up a book by Neil Gaiman, it was American Gods - Authors preferred version (has something like 1400 more words than the regular version). This was my first book from him and I absolutely loved it. I can easily see him becoming one of my few favourite authors. It's not often at all I fall for an authors work this fast.
What I'm asking is where to go now. What are his most iconic or well known books, and the ones I should consider getting next? And I guess General Neil Gaiman discussion as well >_< |
The most iconic Neil Gaiman is Sandman. It's a graphic novel now but when it first came out it was about 60+ comic books. His Endless were the type of characters that changed the face of comics and set the stage for the Vertigo universe. There were other Vertigo titles, but none as innovative as Sandman. After this Neil Gaiman wrote books but first came the Endless.
I met him once at a signing. Seemed like a real nice guy. Handsome. |
I'm personally not really into Graphic novels. i like books for words, and tv shows for my image based entertainment. the idea of comics and graphic novels just seems odd to me >_<
makes me a little sad that his main works will be something i'll most likely not enjoy ): |
Oh you said iconic. Well his book Neverwhere is good, I quite liked it. Quirky. I think it was based off of his script for the BBC. M is for Magic is really good but I have a feeling you might not like that since it is young adult and first written (I believe) in comic form at least I am almost positive I read the comics for that first. Sorry, that taps me out on Neil Gaiman. I really admire his story telling though, I think he is a master story teller.
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i jsut wasn't aware that he did comics, so i was asking for his best and most well known books. I'll probably edit the first post now i know that.
what do you mean by young adult? Like , the protagonist is young, or it's aimed at young adults? |
I loved gaimans the graveyard book
It was very interesting and very amazing I enjoyed every minute of it |
I'm sorry it's the Books of Magic by Neil Gaiman, I got the title wrong. And yes, it's about a young man, a boy really, who has the potential to be a great magician.
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I'll have top check that one out, 'Sami
My main favourite author is Orson Scott Card, and he very commonly has young protagonists, sometimes as young as 6. I have a thing for adult fiction with younger characters. |
Orson Scott Card is a fantastic read. I don't know a bad book by him but granted I have only read like half his stuff. Those Ender books, wow.
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Enders Saga, Earth Saga and the Alvin Maker saga are the main series that I've read, along with a lot of his one offs.
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Same here, I have read those exact same series. I see you like books, that is awesome. :)
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It's not often I run into someone who has also read books by him. A lot of people avoid his works because they don't like him as a person.
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They don't like his religion and/or his outspoken homophobic views? I can understand people not wanting to read his books. He is pretty nasty about that.
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While, yes, i can understand that view, I take a different approach to things like books, movies music etc.
I try and learn as little about the people behind it, so i can just enjoy it as it is. i don't want to restrict what i can enjoy based on something that technically effects it in no way. |
I know Exactly what you mean. Take Battlefield Earth for example, by L. Ron Hubbard, founder of "Scientology" if you have ever heard of that? Some actors are in it (e.g. John Travolta, Tom Cruise). But the book is really good, quite excellent (the movie sucked, don't watch it). But knowing about L. Ron Hubbard personally could be quite off-putting. I too like to know as little as possible so it does not ruin me for the book itself.
I don't like the thought of putting money in their pockets though. |
If someone created something that provided me with enjoyment they deserve th emoney, no matter what. It's not like having more money is funding Orson Scott Cards religious views. they're going to be that way no matter what.
In the case of Orson Scott Card he's just as mean as any other person following their religious code, so i also can't really put him down on that. |
I think you can argue against some religious thinking when it runs counter to humanistic behavior. A good example is Jehovah's Witnesses who are opposed to letting their children get transfusions in life threatening situations. That decision had to be taken away from them due to the harm it would cause the child. And there are many more instances I could point out.
Card is a homophobic Mormon. Hubbard is dead but his legacy lives on. Sure I can enjoy the books, but it is reasonable (I think) to at least think about what it is you might be supporting by laying down that money for one of their books. I don't know, it is complex. I am sure if Adolf Hitler were to have written a child's story that in and of itself was harmless I would never buy it and I would never read it to my child, on principle. |
I personally would read Adolphs book if it was good XD as for being homophobic, that isn't life threatening in any way like the transfusion example. -shrug-
it's all about hour personal outlook on like I guess. |
This is such a great discussion! Luckily Neil Gaiman is very open minded so I have no issues with his stuff.
I think homophobia can be life threatening (hate crimes like the brutal killing of Michael Sandy for example). When homophobia is taught to children then they bully other children or even adults who suicide (Tyler Clementi) due to acts of homophobic hatred. It is sadly endemic and is not harmless. However, I don't go looking for that stuff in an author. I take books as they come, in general. |
I suppose you're right there, but homophobic hate crimes can also be done by non-religious people just as easily, if not more easily as they have no religious code to follow. a religious person may not want to do a violent act, while a plain hater may not care.
I only know of Cards views because other people reacted badly when I mentioned him as my favourite author. |
People there in Scotland reacted badly? Why?
Ender's Game is one of my top 100 books, maybe in my top 50. |
no, it's just people knowing he was homophobic. usually online. Apparently i should enjoy his stuff.
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I just got his biography for three bucks. Not bad I think. I've only just started it.
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I'm reading his biography.
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