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Tears 11-14-2012 04:16 AM

Is there such thing as unconditional love?
 
Hm, I'm really curious as to what people really think about unconditional love. I never quite understood what it is about loving someone with out conditions. Neither have I experienced either end of it. To me, the whole world has a bunch of conditions that must be fulfilled before someone "loves" you or something. I can't even put it past myself; I'd have conditions for loving people too.

So, what are your thoughts on whether there's such thing as unconditional love or not?

littl3chocobo 11-14-2012 04:23 AM

there is and i know it personally, unconditional love is when nothing can change your feelings, when no trial is too troublesome, no hurt too painful and no desire too irrational to try and want to help obtain

of course this does not mean it is always wise to follow these reactions, sometimes these reactions cannot be reacted upon but they are there, inside always

but basically it is a feeling of wanting to be there for good stuff and bad and wanting to be so close as to be the same and not changing your mind about it simply because things do not go your way

it is being willing to not only die for someone but to /live/ for someone, to think of them over yourself and to take pleasure in their existence and feel for them as you feel for yourself and all of it despite yourself, despite them, despite the world

it is love that is unyielding

Tears 11-14-2012 05:36 AM

That's pretty inspiring. I wish more of the world treated the ones they love with those thoughts in mind. Might make it a happier place.

littl3chocobo 11-14-2012 06:39 AM

prolly not X'''D loving someone like that is a pain in the tukus hahahaha i have done some truly stupid shit just for a smile

Tears 11-14-2012 06:58 AM

LOL. I'm sure we all have, whether we'd admit it or not.

littl3chocobo 11-14-2012 07:20 AM

but long and short of it, it sucks loving someone unconditionally but you dont regret it and even if you are loved that way it does not always feel that way

i wish you luck finding what you are looking for thugh

Tears 11-14-2012 07:26 AM

Not quite sure i understand that, but I guess experience will later tell me how it's like.

Thanks. C:

Serra Britt 11-14-2012 10:28 PM

I can't tell if it really exists but then again what Choco says is very valid. I don't think loving someone unconditionally really means you're okay with everything that comes along, but more of a willingness to continue to work towards the relationship no matter the obstacles. Seems to be the case from my point of view :3

Kali_Namir 11-14-2012 10:48 PM

I haven't experienced it with people, but with puppies and dogs, that is the way they love. Unconditionally. No matter what you do, a puppy/dog will ALWAYS love you.

Night Fury 11-16-2012 01:18 AM

yes but it is a matter of opinion
there are cases where people will love someone no matter what happens

relationships tend to require some give and take, for it to work
this depending how you take it can mean conditions or show how two people get along if they can deal and work whatever problem it is out with one another

Tears 11-17-2012 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali_Namir (Post 1423256)
I haven't experienced it with people, but with puppies and dogs, that is the way they love. Unconditionally. No matter what you do, a puppy/dog will ALWAYS love you.

Ah yes. I've heard of that. :D

Xun 11-17-2012 03:52 PM

Hi, I'm trying to think logically, but its failing me.

Before you can ask such a question like that, you need to ask the question, "What is love?" If you're going to answer and say its a type of feeling you get when you "blah-blah-blah," you're not diving into it head on.

To me, unconditional love is a myth because people would say, "Oh, I love you no matter what!" And then after a few months, they break up. ...or at least, that's how it happens around my parts.

To love someone, there has to be a reason behind it. Everything has a reason behind it-- you can't say, "I don't know." to the question, "Why do you love that person?" And to love this said person, you must be willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING to make them happy. It's the joy of seeing the person you care for in the expense of your own life. Your time, your energy, your everything.

To me, love is sacrifice. And you can always say, "Oh, but love is when you want to make the other person happy and be there for them no matter what!"

Your definition merely explains that love is sacrifice. Remember that you want to be with this person, make them happy, regardless of the circumstances. That. Is sacrifice.

...TL;DR: It depends on what you think is "unconditional."

littl3chocobo 11-17-2012 04:09 PM

dude, my beloved said they hated me and never wanted to see me again. for two years i held a flame while believing their words were all my fault, i loved them as much during that time as i did the week before i was told off and if they would have said 'die' i would have died for them, when they came back i did not dwell on my unhappiness because in them coming back there was no more unhappiness, i gave them a place to live away from their abusive family and supported them fully, moved across town to a house i could not afford, gave them my vehicle and did not get upset when they trashed it, got a speeding ticket so they would not have to be alone. i have bent over backwards for them every time i could even though i was cheated and mistreated abused insulted and screwed over because every time they smile i am in heaven and every moment is worth it because there is no way to even the balance for that sweet laugh, that kind touch, that rare easy smile

for the last five years i have felt like this person is worth more in a moment than i could repay in my life and i feel no less in love with them now then when we were younger and i was in the blossom of my first love even though as far as they are concerned we are 'just friends' who a long time ago were close and not so long ago were roommates

i would die for them, i would suffer for them, i would kill for them if that is what it took to make them happy and i would do it with no regret


also i can't answer your 'why' question because my answer is 'because it is k' which is no answer at all but i hope the rest is satisfactory

Xun 11-17-2012 04:21 PM

That, my friend, is love that you've shown. The other person has a choice of whether or not to accept it. In some cases, people use it for their own benefit. Personally, I would love to punch those people senseless because they're just selfish. For you I say, you deserve better than that person. It'll probably take years before they come to appreciate what you did for them. A far as what happen to you, I'm sorry. Also, that's a different topic, but I'm more than willing to hear you out if you still want to talk about it.

Well, it's an answer and your explanation is good enough. It reads simply as, "Because I care for them." Even an answer like that is acceptable. What I would like for people to see is the reason behind their feelings and not just spout out words. Sorry to say, I'm pretty picky about that.

littl3chocobo 11-17-2012 04:28 PM

yeah, a lot of people say that and i get told often they are a bad person buuuut if the most perfect person ever, someone well suited and loving came alone i would not notice them because regardless of what i 'deserve' this person is all i want, warts and all<3

besides there is always a chance that one day they will come around and i want to be there for that moment<3


unfortunately i would rather not talk about it though because i respect them enough not to give out personal info and i am a blabbermouth XD i just wanted to let you know it /is/ out there and no it was not love at first site, it was love at second XD

Xun 11-17-2012 04:37 PM

Just keep hopin', yo. Like I said, it'll take years.

Of course, and I respect that as well. Not forcing you or anything to let me know, but it was worth the talk.

LOL Oh good, cause I would've been all "lol wut" if it was love-at-first-sight. I've been in about 3 relationships (not all at once, mind you), and my current relationship makes me believe that this is the one. It actually made me question that because after talking, it felt as if I've known the person for like... years! lol And I only knew them for a good number of months.


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