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cho is externally female but inside i am not quite male or female, i cannot have babies, i feel and think in a male fashion and i look a little androgynous but not in that trendy no-gender way XD i just have male and female aspects that are hard to pick apart unless i am wearing gender-specific clothing(when i worked at walmart noone could guess my gender unless they knew me)

I want to say that's pretty cool, but I'm worried about potentially offending you, because at the same time it kinda sucks.

And just as a by the way, your avi is drool worthy. Very smexy. <3 ^_^'

I'm similar to Kilala in that I often use my avatar to wear things that I would not be comfortable wearing in real life. I don't show a lot of unnecessary skin; almost all my shirts are a moderate v-neck t-shirt and even then I wear a camisole underneath them. I pretty much only wear solid colors or color-and-white stripes. I always wear standard denim jeans. My business/dress clothes have a bit more variety, but my everyday wear is very plain and practical.

In my avatars, I can wear all sorts of crazy colors, patterns, and fits of clothing. I can forego pants if I feel like it (and usually I do). I can use tons of elaborate accessories. It's not an expression of how I wish I looked by any means; I'm quite happy with my real-life appearance. There's just so many different beautiful items, like Uma said, that it's a shame to not try and be creative with them.

I'm sure that bits of my personality and preferred aesthetic do come out in my avatars. There's certain items and themes that I stick to constantly, and ones that I almost never touch. But it's not a conscious thing. I don't mind seeing what people on the site look like, and I don't feel like it muddies my opinion of them most of the time. I don't remember too well what people look like IRL when I am looking at their avatar, or vice-versa. For example, if I see a picture of Batty on facebook, I remember what she looks like as a human being and don't really remember what her avatar was dressed like. Then when I go to talk to her on Trisphee and see her avatar, I remember her avatar style and what her face looks like mostly leaves my mind. That's just how it works for me, though, I guess.

ah, i cannot disasemble so well


it's hard to offend me dear X''D unless you call me a 'monster' i am pretty ok with whatever hahaha

That's pretty good to know, Cho. Until I really feel settled in, I tend to worry about offending people more than I probably should...
<~ is a horrible worry wart... >.>'

I have read what you wrote about emotion and yet I am still not sure. You are right, it varies from person to person. But to be really honest with you I just can't take or display really strong emotion, idk, it makes me irritable and insensitive. But that is probably some protective mechanism.

Your avatars let us look deep within your psyche Sadrain. I have noticed, they are none of them really "earthy"...of this world...rather I should say they are all of them slightly beyond this mortal coil. You prefer the ebb and flow in design. You like to take the viewer on a winding trip with you into whatever labyrinth you are feeling. I think this aptitude is special. I have no way to do that.

Today though you look like you are in a cave, like the walls are closing in. You are still beautiful though but you are a wanderer who is stuck. The only outlet of egress is through the viewer of your avatar, towards the viewer. You face us, straight on, as yourself. The inner self if we only could see it. Interesting.

I am ambivalent about seeing RL pictures. Sometimes it amazes me how beautiful people are when I know them and then see them. But I don't really look at the face.

I don't get much from people like you do I guess. They write and say things but I have been fooled before, once, so now I don't believe much of anything. *shrug* I take it how it comes.

Sorry Tris for the double post but really I am so tired and there are so many replies, I hope it is ok.

Choco, I would love the build you did for that orange hair, thank you.

Kilila, I am so happy to hear about those applications. All the best and keep me posted. And (in reference to a later post of yours), you should not worry about offending people, I am sure you would never greatly offend, you are too nice.

Hmmm. I never wear male avatars because the clothes are not as fun for me and if I were to make a male avi it would mostly likely look kinda female. =P

Back to Cho...you seem both male and female to me. I never really thought about it much, I just took you how you are, but you do have some masculinity to you that comes across even to me who does not care one way the other. I have been told my mind is masculine over and over...but that is just people trying to mold me into their preconceived image.

Lucid I love the way that you really think outside of the box for your avatars. I too tend not to show a lot of skin. I never wear plunging necklines or any of that stuff. But my avi can wear whatever.

street tagger hair, messy buns, pompom hair, wendy extensions~


really? i am told quite often i am a girl plain and simple even when i have a male avi or ask to be refered to as male XD i once had a thing in my sig asking to be called 'he' and nadda haha

Thanks Uma, I think it's because I'm too afraid of offending people that I come across as too nice, lol. My husband and a few of my friends can tell you that I have my bitch moments, but then again, who doesn't?

And to be honest, Cho, I thought you were a guy until I saw something you posted (can't quite remember what it was though) and it made me curious.

well all the same i am pretty mellow~ so don't worry about offending me unless it is intentional or over art X''D i can be prickly then but that is about it

It's so nice to come back in this thread and see active, long replies. It's like in times when I was very active, when there were actual conversations going on in threads.

Uma, that must be one of the nicest, most unique compliments I've received. I am glad that my avatars create a story, leave thought/aftermath impression. It's not a goal, but nice to have, especially if the people I like notice it. Your observations are very good and close to idea, even if I just get inspired and go with the flow. Thank you.

As for feelings... Of course, lot of people are like that, it's not necessarily bad. Being overly emotional can be more of a problem than anything anyways. And I am sure your mom knows what you feel for her, no words or actions are needed in most cases. :)

And no information source is absolutely sure. I never feel sure "oh that is so and so" from something, just accept that it might be so, but as gender doesn't really matter to me, I don't go prying to find out if it's true and usually, it just clears up on its own.

I still think/see your avatars with story of their own, haha. The way you mold the items together, the theme, it does create a certain feel, story... And as there is pattern in your avatars, I feel like I am watching faery and deity like inhabitants of some magical kingdom.

Sorry for mistakes and stuff, I am awfully sleepy right now. Have a nice day, everyone!

Hey Sadrain, it is nice to see posts all full of conversation, I agree. It's a lucky happenstance that I have the time to chat, but alas, such is not always the case, work prevents me sometimes from making long personalized posts. But I find our conversation intriguing. The avatar as an instrument of story telling may have been with us for millennia or more. When I think about it, have not those who deal in the mysteries sometimes donned the guise of the gods and told stories about them? I think we see it in modern civilization as well as among the few "primitive" tribes we have to study.

So I think you are right about my avatars. I must strive to create a story too! I never knew that but I think you are right. I do tend to dress up like a god or goddess. I try to make my avatars lush and complex and above all as divinely beautiful or as deadly beautiful as I can. Interesting!

Kilala I can understand that though actually I tend to offend people IRL because I don't hold my tongue like I ought to, hehe. So yeah, "bitch moments", hehe, great way to put it! Would you say yours arise from irritation with people or other circumstances?

Thank you Cho for the hair build, that is awesome, never would have thought to put all that together.

me either XD pog the bald wonder is the one who did most of the work, i just played with the bangs and replaced the middle hair

I've seen how prickly you can be over art, Cho. I stumbled across a misunderstanding/disagreement of yours in the Art Bazaar.

And I don't make it a habit of intentionally trying to offend people.

@Uma: I'm a pretty meek individual IRL... I'm very opinionated, but I have a tendency to not speak on things. Which in turn makes me blow up on occasion, and I wind up looking like a complete crab. And in all honesty, it's a combination of things... For the most part, I wind up getting really irritated with people, but because I don't speak my mind right off, things build up and I turn into a human volcano. Though the occasional happening can make me bitchy, too.

-floats back through- Eh. I usually prefer to voice my own opinions, just...occasionally at the wrong times. And I usually try to be nice and all, but, hahaaaah...

Though, IRL, I always seem to be glaring or pissed off, so that tends to make people a bit wary.

XD yeah, i am obsessed with following rules and i have had my art stolen on more than a couple occasions and used in all sorts of ways, i get a little crazy about art

though speaking of art, this thread is full of pretty avis XD everyone who wants free art say 'aye' and i will pick one of you to draw, i want to draw busty girls with round faces XD